Attention Mr. McNair

[nsane_die-hard]

Just a thought from a long-time fan of Houston pro sports,

What if I told you that in 3 years the Texans could have one of the marquee franchises in the league? Would you be interested? Here is my plan:

1) Don't fire Casserly and Capers after this season, they are afraid of losing their jobs and will do what you want them to do.

2) Tell them to draft Reggie Bush or else.

3) Back off and watch the team fail miserably.

4) After the season fire Casserly and Capers.

5) Having the number 1 pick in the draft (Most likely Vince Young)+Reggie Bush and Andre Johnson, makes us very attractive, so use that to hire a legendary coach preferably Jimmy Johnson and give him total control over all hiring decisions and player personnel. (that's probably the only way you can lure him away from Fox)

6) Vince will fill the seats that you lost the year before and Jimmy will make us a winner (in about 2-3 years) and one of the marquee teams in the league.

This advice is given free of charge. ;)

[Ric]

This advice is given free of charge.
you get what you pay for.

[nsane_die-hard]

you get what you pay for.

Really, what's bad about this free advice. Please explain.

[A-Train]

So...what's the record for longest time between registering and first post?

[nsane_die-hard]

So...what's the record for longest time between registering and first post?

Do I have the record?

Great!

One must learn to appreciate small victories.

Don't underestimate me A-train, I have been lurking on this board a long time. I know your every move.

[Ric]

Really, what's bad about this free advice. Please explain.
you want a team that's bleeding fans on a nearly hourly basis to tank for another season-and-a-half and then ask them to come back? why would anyone? especially those paying $1,000's of dollars for season tickets?

[JunkyardDwg]

Just a thought from a long-time fan of Houston pro sports,

What if I told you that in 3 years the Texans could have one of the marquee franchises in the league? Would you be interested? Here is my plan:

1) Don't fire Casserly and Capers after this season, they are afraid of losing their jobs and will do what you want them to do.

2) Tell them to draft Reggie Bush or else.

3) Back off and watch the team fail miserably.

4) After the season fire Casserly and Capers.

5) Having the number 1 pick in the draft (Most likely Vince Young)+Reggie Bush and Andre Johnson, makes us very attractive, so use that to hire a legendary coach preferably Jimmy Johnson and give him total control over all hiring decisions and player personnel. (that's probably the only way you can lure him away from Fox)

6) Vince will fill the seats that you lost the year before and Jimmy will make us a winner (in about 2-3 years) and one of the marquee teams in the league.

This advice is given free of charge. ;)


1) I don't like the idea of already tanking next season. You play to win and these guys are paid to put a winning product on the field, not two seasons from now, hell not even next season, but now (though that ain't happenning)

2) Reggie Bush is attractive but he's not the be all to end all path to improving the team.

3) What kind of message are you sending (to the fans, investors and other teams) when you back off as owner and watch the team fail.

4) Fire 'em...but not after next season, after this season.

5) Tankin next season won't be a guarantee to the number one pick. And Vince Young is not a savior (I'd rather stay w/ Carr and see what he can do w/ a decent OL). Young studs may be attractive, but I doubt attractive enough to lure a coach here. It'll be the willingness of the organization to improve and the dedication of its owner and the existing staff to meet that goal combined w/ the talent in place.

6) Vince Young isn't a lock, by far, to fill empty seats (this isn't Roger Clemens were talking about here). And hiring a Jimmy Johnson caliber coach isn't a guarantee of success (see the Dolphins).


Here's what you do:

1) Fire Casserly and fire Capers. Send a message to the team and the league: the Texans are bout winning and these guys didn't get the job done.

2) Bring in a new GM/Coach combo w/ some attitue, whose not afraid to make players and personnel accountable for their actions.

3) Take the number one pick this season and either draft Bush (and trade Davis away for help) or trade down and use the extra picks for OL help.

4) Improve the weakest areas of the team (OL and defense)

5) Make Buchanon the waterboy.

6) Let the talent we have in place (Carr, Andre, Davis, Mathis, Dunta, etc) find themselves again in the improvements made.

[nsane_die-hard]

you want a team that's bleeding fans on a nearly hourly basis to tank for another season-and-a-half and then ask them to come back? why would anyone? especially those paying $1,000's of dollars for season tickets?

They would come to watch Vince Young. With all the Longhorn fans in this area and the fact that he is homegrown talent, trust me Reliant would be rockin'. The Longhorn lawyers would be buying tickets left and right. They got the money. Plus hiring someone like Jimmy Johnson would bring championship experience and high expectations. That too would put some butts in the seats.

[Major]

How many teams have ever been successful with the Coach also playing GM?

[nsane_die-hard]

1) I don't like the idea of already tanking next season. You play to win and these guys are paid to put a winning product on the field, not two seasons from now, hell not even next season, but now (though that ain't happenning)

2) Reggie Bush is attractive but he's not the be all to end all path to improving the team.

3) What kind of message are you sending (to the fans, investors and other teams) when you back off as owner and watch the team fail.

4) Fire 'em...but not after next season, after this season.

5) Tankin next season won't be a guarantee to the number one pick. And Vince Young is not a savior (I'd rather stay w/ Carr and see what he can do w/ a decent OL). Young studs may be attractive, but I doubt attractive enough to lure a coach here. It'll be the willingness of the organization to improve and the dedication of its owner and the existing staff to meet that goal combined w/ the talent in place.

6) Vince Young isn't a lock, by far, to fill empty seats (this isn't Roger Clemens were talking about here). And hiring a Jimmy Johnson caliber coach isn't a guarantee of success (see the Dolphins).


Here's what you do:

1) Fire Casserly and fire Capers. Send a message to the team and the league: the Texans are bout winning and these guys didn't get the job done.

2) Bring in a new GM/Coach combo w/ some attitue, whose not afraid to make players and personnel accountable for their actions.

3) Take the number one pick this season and either draft Bush (and trade Davis away for help) or trade down and use the extra picks for OL help.

4) Improve the weakest areas of the team (OL and defense)

5) Make Buchanon the waterboy.

6) Let the talent we have in place (Carr, Andre, Davis, Mathis, Dunta, etc) find themselves again in the improvements made.

I appreciate your comments JYD. I am from a different school of thought. The Texans are in bad shape as we all know. I'm not saying that one player or coach is going to come in a fix the whole thing. Bob has to clean house. That doesn't have to happen in one year. I think in order to build a team that can win year after year you need to start with a strong foundation. I think a team with a solid owner, a proven winner as the coach and good young talent at all skill positions is a pretty good foundation. We have a solid owner, (which as an Oiler fan I realize is the most difficult part) now we need to work on the rest and it won't happen in one year.

[solid]

And who is going to block for Reggie Bush; he is used to playing behind a great offensive line? With the Texans offensive line he may do no better that Davis or Wells. Not the answer, revamp the line through trades and drafts. Texans have skill, need blocking.

[CriscoKidd]

Actually the Texans should tank every year until they have 11 starters that were top 5 overall draft picks, then they can start trying to win.

3 almost down(if they don't f up the rest of the season), 8 more to go.

[nsane_die-hard]

How many teams have ever been successful with the Coach also playing GM?

He doesn't have to play GM. He can hire one since he would be in charge of all personnel decisions. Jimmy is a volatile guy and McNair would have to bring someone in who could mesh with him. If Jimmy hand picks the GM then he has no excuses. I think to get Jimmy you have to make him an offer he can't refuse. Otherwise, he'll just keep doing what he's doing.

[nsane_die-hard]

Actually the Texans should tank every year until they have 11 starters that were top 5 overall draft picks, then they can start trying to win.

3 almost down(if they don't f up the rest of the season), 8 more to go.

funny. :D

[nsane_die-hard]

And who is going to block for Reggie Bush; he is used to playing behind a great offensive line? With the Texans offensive line he may do no better that Davis or Wells. Not the answer, revamp the line through trades and drafts. Texans have skill, need blocking.

Next year has to be another bad year for us to get Vince. I know people think its a bad idea but it could work. If we get Vince, we'll have him, Bush and Andre. I think Jimmy and his staff will know what to do from that point on.

[sydmill]

My plan:
1) Fire DC and CC and replace them with an Offensive HC and solid DC
2) Restructure Carr's deal (2 more seasons)
3) Trade #1 for #4-#6 and first rounder next year
4) Draft Ferguson or Winston in 1st
5) Draft a TE in 2nd (Pope)
6) Draft a DE and R. McNeal in 3rd
7) Draft Defense the rest of the way
8) Next season trade our 1st and the extra one from trade to get VY

[sydmill]

By the by I would turn McNeal into a WR. At 6'1'' and 200 lbs. with a 4.28 40 he has the physical characteristics of Chad Johnson and would be the third receiver along with AJ and Mathis.

[IC2000]

My plan:
1) Fire DC and CC and replace them with an Offensive HC and solid DC
2) Restructure Carr's deal (2 more seasons)
3) Trade #1 for #4-#6 and first rounder next year
4) Draft Ferguson or Winston in 1st
5) Draft a TE in 2nd (Pope)
6) Draft a DE and R. McNeal in 3rd
7) Draft Defense the rest of the way
8) Next season trade our 1st and the extra one from trade to get VY

Vince young will fail miserably as a #1 pick, this guy will not be a good quarterback, right now its easy for him in college. The NFL will not have wide open receivers and 10 seconds to throw to them every down

[Bobblehead]

Why don't the Texans just move to LA?
Would that make everyone happy?

[EddieWasSnubbed]

Vince young will fail miserably as a #1 pick, this guy will not be a good quarterback, right now its easy for him in college. The NFL will not have wide open receivers and 10 seconds to throw to them every down
So you're saying that any quarterback in college that plays in an offense witha good scheme will fail in the NFL? I don't believe you...

[ron413]

We need our own Joe Clark type coach to turn this ship around. Attitude change is priority #1.

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[sydmill]

I am not going to argue that VY is going to be a pro bowler or future MVP, there is no way of knowing that. At the same time there is no way for anybody to know if he is going to be a bust. What I think everyone can agree on is that the guy has a very unique set of skills for a qb. From what I have seen I think that VY could be everything that Mike Vick is and possibly more. Now, if the Texans were to follow what I proposed they would have Carr starting in VY's rookie year with VY set to go in year 2. In that year Ferguson would be a 3rd year player on an offensive line that hopefully will be vastly improved. AJ leads a receiving corp with a veteran Mathis and Gaffney as well as a potential impact receiver in Reggie McNeal. That is a team with a load of offensive potential, so it is not like VY would have to shoulder the load by himself. Regardless, this all a moot point. VY will much more likely than not never suit up for the Tejanos, but if my "dream" were reality I think that we would be MUCH improved.

[bplld]

Why does everyone want to draft vince young or reggie bush?

Our running game is already decent, just an offensive line and it can be one of the best. How much do yall really think Bush will do for us in comparison to the best defensive player in college football on the worst defense in pro football.

Same thing with Young. I think Carr is an above average QB, as he proved last season, but just needs the proper protection. Young will struggle with our O-line. You might say he can run, but Carr is in the top 3 for QBs in the running game. How much will Young really help, he isnt a better passer than Carr.

[russian88]

Why don't the Texans just move to LA?
Would that make everyone happy?

:p ;) :) :) :) :)

[rocketfan83]

Has Vince already said he's coming back?

His stock probaly won't get much higher. I don't see him coming back.

[Agent27]

I think nsane is exactly that. This team is obviously more than 2 players and a coach away from being good.

[nsane_die-hard]

I think nsane is exactly that. This team is obviously more than 2 players and a coach away from being good.

If you read my post more thoroughly you will see that I said 2-3 years after hiring Jimmy Johnson we would have a winner.

[Major]

If you read my post more thoroughly you will see that I said 2-3 years after hiring Jimmy Johnson we would have a winner.

Why wait a year before firing the current staff though? You think getting a better draft pick next year is worth another year of crappy draft picks this year and a lack of talent development, in addition to one fewer year getting experience in a new system?

How does waiting make us better more quickly?

[nsane_die-hard]

Why wait a year before firing the current staff though? You think getting a better draft pick next year is worth another year of crappy draft picks this year and a lack of talent development, in addition to one fewer year getting experience in a new system?

How does waiting make us better more quickly?

My thinking is that if we get Reggie this year and do nothing else we will still be the worst team in the NFL. Which in turn, will give us the first pick the following year. I think Andre, Reggie and Vince or whomever Jimmy wants as the first pick plus Total control over personnel will lure him away from his cush job at Fox. It will take a lot to do that.

The whole purpose for this plan is to get Jimmy Johnson. And if this plan doesn't seem feasible whatever it takes is fine with me. Jimmy is not stupid. I doubt he would want to come here right now in this situation. He would probably want to go to a situation that has some promise. Right now we've got Dunta, Andre, Mathis (Domanick is injury prone) and the rest don't really matter. We need more than that if we want to get a Jimmy Johnson. It would be different if he was chillin' on his couch dying to get a job. But he likes where he is and it will be hard to get him to give that up and come bust his a$$ for us and bring us a winner.

Those Dallas teams were powerhouses with unbelievable talent at every position. And he commanded their respect. It would be great to see that in Houston. Man, I would take something that just resembled that at this point.

[swilkins]

I have spent thousands of dollars over the course of 4 seasons. It's very difficult for me to see the product on the field. Somehow, I don't see you being a season ticket holder.

If McNair came up to me and said he was tanking the rest of the year and all of next year to get the top pick, people would lose respect for him (including his team). People wouldn't want to play here. I wouldn't buy anymore season tickets. No one pays to watch a team lose.

I want an owner that makes the right decision at the right time.

We're never going to draft Bush and we're not tanking the next 22 games.

After this season, McNair needs to:

1. Give Cass and Capers their walking papers.
2. Draft to repair the weakness.

Our running back is not the best, but he's fine for now.

Carr is going to get better, with a better line.

I disagree with your free advise.

[EddieWasSnubbed]

Here's another question to throw out there (not meaning to derail the thread...):


What will be your stance, as a fan, if for some reason Capers and Casserly aren't fired after this season?



Personally, I would be more angry than I think I've ever been sports-wise, and I'd definitely have to re-evaluate my stance as a Texan fan.

I'm writing this because after every week I wonder why at least Capers hasn't been fired yet. It's not like you CAN'T fire a coach in the middle of a season. It leaves me perplexed and wondering whether or not these two are going to be kept whenever I wake up every Monday morning and see that they're still being payed.

[sydmill]

swilkins-there is no way that we are going to be a .500 team next year, so if you're going to be bad why not try and get as much of a benefit from it as you can? the only thing worse than a losing team is a team that is just good enough to stay mediocre for years. look at a team like Boston (Celtics). with Pierce and Walker they were never going to compete for a championship but they were good enough to be a middle of the pack team year in and year out. I for one plan on being a Texans fan for the rest of my life, so I can deal with a crappy year or two if we can acquire the type of talent that can eventually help you win a super bowl.

[msn]

after every week I wonder why at least Capers hasn't been fired yet. It's not like you CAN'T fire a coach in the middle of a season.
same here.

[reggietodd]

After each week I wonder what excuse people will make for David Carr, here are the best ones so far:

1. Its an expansion team, give him time.
2. Offensive line sucks
3. Receivers are hurt
4. Receivers run bad routes
5. Receivers drop balls
6. Conservative play calling, won't let him throw downfield
7. Played against a good defense
8. He is gun shy or has "happy feet" because of the O-lines problems
9. He doesn't look off defenders because of bad coaching

I've heard it all at this point, when the reality is DAVID CARR SUCKS! (Matt Jackson agrees with me)

[MadMax]

(Matt Jackson agrees with me)

and remember..his qualifications include being a kick-ass caller to a sports radio show for many years!!! :D

[msn]

Matt Jackson agrees with me
Just sealed my opinion. :p

[wesnesked]

As bad is our offense is...our defense is twice as bad! Trade down and grab AJ Hawk and get an OL in the late 1st, early 2nd

[ubigred]

LET NOT BE DUMB.....McNair is smart so he is not going to flat out say WE ARE TANKING NEXT SEASON. All he has to say is we are in a transition phase.

Yes we are losing money and ticket holders. some of that will be gained back when we draft bush.

Then some will be lost when we lose, then draft Vince young and hire Jimmy Johnson. Then we will have Vince , Bush, and Johnson. The holy trinity coupled w/ Coach Jimmy Johnson.

Winning cures everyting!!!!! Playoffs win back fans...AND THEN SOME!!!!

[Ric]

LET NOT BE DUMB.....McNair is smart so he is not going to flat out say WE ARE TANKING NEXT SEASON. All he has to say is we are in a transition phase.

Yes we are losing money and ticket holders. some of that will be gained back when we draft bush.

Then some will be lost when we lose, then draft Vince young and hire Jimmy Johnson. Then we will have Vince , Bush, and Johnson. The holy trinity coupled w/ Coach Jimmy Johnson.

Winning cures everyting!!!!! Playoffs win back fans...AND THEN SOME!!!!
i thought we weren't going to be dumb?

[JunkyardDwg]

LET NOT BE DUMB.....McNair is smart so he is not going to flat out say WE ARE TANKING NEXT SEASON. All he has to say is we are in a transition phase.

Yes we are losing money and ticket holders. some of that will be gained back when we draft bush.

Then some will be lost when we lose, then draft Vince young and hire Jimmy Johnson. Then we will have Vince , Bush, and Johnson. The holy trinity coupled w/ Coach Jimmy Johnson.

Winning cures everyting!!!!! Playoffs win back fans...AND THEN SOME!!!!


Why do people have this idea that A) we'll even draft or be able to draft Bush and Young B) that they, along with Andre, are the saviours for the team C) assuming they take the team to great heights all three would be able to stay with the salaries they'd most likely command D) Jimmy Johnson would come here based on 3 guys and E) Jimmy Johnson is the answer to our coaching prayers.

Guys, fix the weaknesses first... QB, RB...those aren't our weaknesses. And Jimmy isn't the only potential coach out there. Personally I wouldn't mind going after Jeff Fisher if he were to become available.