Fire Casserly

[bplld]

Does anyone know why the texans still have him cause i am going to be really angry and really scared if he is still GM at draft time. His offseason moves were bad, letting go of three of our best defensive players to be replaced by dissapointments that he bragged about. This team has really not been effective in offseasons and his draft moves, like jason babin, have been bad. And how about that O line he has done nothing about. Casserly needs to be replaced cause this team is just not bringing in talent.

I really cant tell if travis johnson is having a good season but havent been seeing anything or hearing anything to be impressed. Are yall impressed?

[LonghornFan]

Welcome to 5 weeks ago. :)

[Uprising]

Only a matter of time......

[HillBoy]

The clock IS ticking...

[Baqui99]

There will be thorough house cleaning at the end of the season that includes the entire coaching staff and GM.

[rikesh316]

Casserly better get fired. I don't know what the hell he was thinking by signing that scrub Morlon Greenwood.

[LonghornFan]

Casserly better get fired. I don't know what the hell he was thinking by signing that scrub Morlon Greenwood.

BUT he had the bright idea of trading draft picks for Babbin, a scrub we could have drafted in the second round. :rolleyes:

This team is BEYOND horrible.

[Rocket River]

How much say do you think Capers have in Draft Picks? . .I figure he has SOME SAY.

Rocket River

[pradaxpimp]

The clock IS ticking...


and the clock is connected to a 500 megaton plutonium bomb.

[nigma2000]

Actually Casserly and Capers should be hanged from the goal post at Reliant Stadiums for the mess they have created for 4 years.

[No Worries]

Casserly and Capers, it has been nice knowing ya.

[gucci888]

There will be thorough house cleaning at the end of the season that includes the entire coaching staff and GM.

That's what I'm thinking as well, I don't think there is any way McNair can keep the same personnel on staff.

[tested911]

3rd highes paid team in the NFL ======= FIRED

[emjohn]

It's my opinion that Casserly needs to be fired today. It won't help the team, but a message needs to be sent, particularly to the fans who are giving up on this sad sack team. Firing Capers will make it even more difficult for the team to win, but Casserly has a minimal role at best at this point in the season. Besides, I don't think Capers is the primary reason we're losing games anymore, it's simply a by-product of a sorry roster.

The offseason dumping of Foreman, Sharper, and Glenn, with the introduction of Buchannon had the effect of pumping the defense full of cyanide. For your consideration:
Through 10 games, the defense is allowing 378 yds per game (up from 341 last year), with opponents rushing for nearly 50 more yds per contest. Our leading tackler is Greenwood, on pace for 83 solo tackles. Last year, Sharper gave us 103. Think he might have helped on all those runs up the middle we're seeing? Glenn had 5 INTs last year to help us net 22 total, now the team is slightly under pace to tally 5 for the season (3 total so far).

You might say that Sharper and Glenn were unavoidable cap casualties, but I wonder if that wasn't largely because of the starter salaries Casserly kept handing out to journeymen/backup-tier linemen.

In short, I say the number one culprit of our hideous slide from rising team to papersack patsies needs to pay the price now. He had a handful of nice picks in the draft (Mathis was amazing last night), but his FA/trade moves have been abysmal. We need better. Drop him.

Evan

[Rocket River]

I think people giving Capers too much of a pass on the Drafting etc
I think he has strong imput on that stuff as well as what is on the field

Rocket River

[Smokey]

If Les Alexander was the owner of the Texans, he wouldn't deal with this incompetence.

Les >>>> Bob

[gucci888]

If Les Alexander was the owner of the Texans, he wouldn't deal with this incompetence.

Les >>>> Bob

Kinda tough to make that assumption. The Texans were improving every year before this season, there was need for a coaching change or GM change until this year.

[Lil Francis]

Casserly has made 5 good picks in 4 seasons. Pitts,Johnson,Robinson,Davis, and Mathis. Its too early on T. Johnson so im not counting him but the rest of the draft picks have been a joke.

[The Real Shady]

In the 2nd and 3rd rounds you are expected to pick up some quality players. In the history of the Texans they have picked the following in those rounds.

2002
2nd - Jabar Gaffney
2nd - Chester Pitts
3rd - Fred weary
3rd - Charles Hill

2003
2nd - Ben Joppru
3rd - Antwan Peek
3rd - Seth Wand
3rd - Dave Ragone

2nd - Tony Hollings *supplemental*

2004
2nd, 3rd, 4th - Jason Babin

2005
2nd, 3rd - Phillip Buchannon
3rd - Vernand Morency

Total:
15 picks
3 starters - Gaffney, Pitts, and Peek.

Out of those starters I would only consider Pitts as a above average player.

Casserly, you're fired!

[EddieWasSnubbed]

It's my opinion that Casserly needs to be fired today. It won't help the team, but a message needs to be sent, particularly to the fans who are giving up on this sad sack team. Firing Capers will make it even more difficult for the team to win, but Casserly has a minimal role at best at this point in the season. Besides, I don't think Capers is the primary reason we're losing games anymore, it's simply a by-product of a sorry roster.
Exactly. If I'm McNair, I'm finding a replacement for Casserly and Capers today and firing them tomorrow. Not only does it send a GREAT message, it let's the fans know you care about winning, you're on their side. I think that most fans don't expect a new coach to come in and start winning right away.

Plus, it's even better for the team because getting a new coach at this point in the season will further solidify our number one pick.


COME ON ROBERT, LET'S CLEAN HOUSE!

[ron413]

Exactly. If I'm McNair, I'm finding a replacement for Casserly and Capers today and firing them tomorrow. Not only does it send a GREAT message, it let's the fans know you care about winning, you're on their side. I think that most fans don't expect a new coach to come in and start winning right away.

Plus, it's even better for the team because getting a new coach at this point in the season will further solidify our number one pick.


COME ON ROBERT, LET'S CLEAN HOUSE!

Great idea, this gameplan needs to start getting a bunch more momentum because it will never happen the way things are run by the over-loyal Mr. McNair. I am starting to seriously get worried that this team will somehow someway get inspired for the last 6 games of the season and pull out a few W's.

We as Texans fans need to sacrifice this second half of the season as a complete wash. We do not want to hear the haunting words from the Commish : "With the sixth pick of the 2006 NFL Draft, the Houston Texans trade the draft rights to ..................... blah blah blah:)

[Baqui99]

http://blogs.ipswitch.com/archives/You're%20Fired.jpg

[nsane_die-hard]

Don't Fire Casserly. Keep Casserly and Capers one more year so they can fail. We will have two number one picks this year and next. Reggie Bush this year, Vince in the following draft. Don't pay Carr, let him go to another team, he deserves another chance. Bring in some scrub and let him get killed by our weaka$$ O-line. After we get Vince, bring in a winning coach.

[emjohn]

Don't Fire Casserly. Keep Casserly and Capers one more year so they can fail. We will have two number one picks this year and next. Reggie Bush this year, Vince in the following draft. Don't pay Carr, let him go to another team, he deserves another chance. Bring in some scrub and let him get killed by our weaka$$ O-line. After we get Vince, bring in a winning coach.
Considering how many season ticket holders have decided not to renew, I'm pretty sure this isn't a valid option. It's 100 times harder to regain fans than to lose them, and McNair is well aware of this.

Put this way:
If we took a step to become a 9-7 team this year, intrest and excitement would have been through the roof. This obviously direclty translates to revenue. If we were 8-8, interest would stay as high as it had been the first few years.

However, this season has sent people packing. This is a tough team to support, and the seats are emptying. Those people that left aren't coming back until the Texans show them something, meaning, they aren't spending a dime next year, even if the Texans bounce back. It'll be the following year. If the Texans look this bad next year, even more people will walk away and find something else to get behind (Astros, Rockets, Aeros, MLS, LOST, something). Think of them as a jilted girlfriend. Easy to f up and lose them, ridiculously hard to win them back afterwards.

Investors are already unhappy. Advertising dollars follow. Economics rule this game. While your plan *might* pan out and give the Texans a contender, McNair won't stand by and bleed money and fan support to do so. Tanking is gutless.

Capers, Casserly and the rest are unemployed Jan 2nd. Period.

Evan

[sydmill]

But does anyone think that the ship can be righted in a single offseason? Lets face it, we are not a hotspot for FAs so we are basically forced to build through the draft which means at most we can expect three or maybe four quality starters to come on board this offseason. I think it will take atleast 2 good offseasons before we see the team where they were LAST year in terms of Ws.

[ron413]

But does anyone think that the ship can be righted in a single offseason? Lets face it, we are not a hotspot for FAs so we are basically forced to build through the draft which means at most we can expect three or maybe four quality starters to come on board this offseason. I think it will take atleast 2 good offseasons before we see the team where they were LAST year in terms of Ws.

If Joe Clark can turnaround the disaster that was Eastside High, then Mr. McNair surely can bring in the right folks to turn this around for next year and get the scores up.

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE BABY IF YOU GOT THE HEART & DESIRE.

" If you believe then you can achieve."

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/mp3clips/newmoviespeeches/moviespeechleanonme1.mp3

[nsane_die-hard]

Tanking is gutless.
Evan

That's your opinion. I think it takes more guts to take the risks associated with sacrificing a season to get many potentially great seasons in return. This is a football town, and winning cures all. We will not win next season regardless. Why not take a chance. Mediocrity sucks, in H-town its all or nothing. A few more 7-9, or 8-8 seasons won't cut it.

[VesceySux]

That's your opinion. I think it takes more guts to take the risks associated with sacrificing a season to get many potentially great seasons in return. This is a football town, and winning cures all. We will not win next season regardless. Why not take a chance. Mediocrity sucks, in H-town its all or nothing. A few more 7-9, or 8-8 seasons won't cut it.

No, emjohn is right: Tanking is gutless. Not only that, but when you foster an environment where it's okay to lose, the players become comfortable losing. Look at the Clippers and Bengals (of old) for an example of this. Sure, you may have your shiny new #1 pick, but you'll also be saddled with the stench of defeat, a smell your team will accept as commonplace. And that foul odor may take a long time to dissipate. Not worth it.

[nsane_die-hard]

No, emjohn is right: Tanking is gutless. Not only that, but when you foster an environment where it's okay to lose, the players become comfortable losing. Look at the Clippers and Bengals (of old) for an example of this. Sure, you may have your shiny new #1 pick, but you'll also be saddled with the stench of defeat, a smell your team will accept as commonplace. And that foul odor may take a long time to dissipate. Not worth it.

I agree. The players here now and who would be here through the next year would be a bunch of losers. No doubt. That's why you bring in a Championship caliber coach and give him control so he can choose his personnel. All losers will be shipped out and winners/playmakers will be brought in. You guys are not looking at this beyond next year. Next year is not going to be a successful season. We have too many holes on this team on both sides of the ball. Anyone who thinks we can win with just a few good offensive line changes is delusional.

[nsane_die-hard]

No, emjohn is right: Tanking is gutless. Not only that, but when you foster an environment where it's okay to lose, the players become comfortable losing. Look at the Clippers and Bengals (of old) for an example of this. Sure, you may have your shiny new #1 pick, but you'll also be saddled with the stench of defeat, a smell your team will accept as commonplace. And that foul odor may take a long time to dissipate. Not worth it.

Also, you shouldn't use the Bengals as an example when making your point. If anything, the Bengals plan of recent years falls more in line with my point. If you notice they have good young and talented skill position players and a coach with Championship experience.

[Drewdog]

Casserly did a great job of running Aaron Glenn and Jamie Sharper out of town. Who really needed them in the first place?? We got Moron "Lee" Greenwood and Phillip "I thought we were playing 2 below?!?!? :confused: "Buchanon in return.

I knew when we didnt upgrade the offensive line that we were in trouble, but I was more worried about defense with losing Sharper, and Glenn.

[emjohn]

Phillip "I thought we were playing 2 below?!?!? "Buchanon
Actually, it's Phillip "let's play flag, not tackle football, today" Buchanon

[Summer Song Giver]

What's the deal on P-Burnt, I haven't heard but the way his leg got wrapped up under him it didn't look good for him, whether it will be good for the team though is debateable :)

[Hakeem06]

i've said this before about casserly on here. when you have the third highest paid team and you are 1-9 or whatever they are now (i lose track after awhile), you know you aren't getting it done as a GM. he is absoulutely awful at evaluating talent and paying accordingly, and the the fact about all those draft picks that have been wasted via trade or on players like jabar gaffney, jason babin, etc. he has no clue of how to construct a winning team. if he is there after this season, i'd be shocked. he's by far the worst GM in all of pro football.

[percicles]

No, emjohn is right: Tanking is gutless. Not only that, but when you foster an environment where it's okay to lose, the players become comfortable losing. Look at the Clippers and Bengals (of old) for an example of this. Sure, you may have your shiny new #1 pick, but you'll also be saddled with the stench of defeat, a smell your team will accept as commonplace. And that foul odor may take a long time to dissipate. Not worth it.

So I guees the 83' Rocket team was gutless for tanking the season so we could get Hakeem. And are the Spurs also gutless for tanking the 94 season so they could get Duncan. Three championships later I doubt the fans or media is still calling them gutless.

Oh and please dont try and use that weak arguement that thy're 2 different sports and 1 player makes a difference in BBall and not in Fball. Coz although San Diego didnt tank 2 get Vick or Eli But they got decent young players in return and LT. This is an excellent year to tank in Fball considering what teams might give up a kings ransom for either Leinart or Bush.