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HayesStreet
11-12-2005, 01:00 PM
I don't have a link but in the Dallas Morning News there's a blurb about Jimmy Johnson coaching the Texans. Thoughts?

TigerBait
11-12-2005, 01:04 PM
Here's a little piece from the Chron.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3453913

Jimmy Johnson was on a Fox Sports conference call this week to talk about the NFL at the midpoint of the season, so I had to ask him about all your e-mails suggesting that he return to Southeast Texas as the Texans' coach and general manager.

Johnson chuckled, then said, "I enjoy what I'm doing with Fox NFL Sunday."

Howie Long, however, cut directly to the chase.

"Don't all coaches say that, though?" Long said. "They all say 'You know what, I'm perfectly happy and would like to focus on that.' "

Johnson then tried to shift the focus back to the Texans' on-field struggles, but Long wasn't having it.

"I would think that $8 million to $10 million (in annual salary) would work," Long said. "You're getting your general manager, your capologist and getting arguably one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game."

"You guys are killing me," the former Cowboys coach replied.

In the time he was able, briefly, to switch the focus off himself and back to the Texans, Johnson took another indirect swipe at general manager Charley Casserly.

"When a team hasn't developed over a period of time, the initial reaction is that they're not getting coached well," he said. "But 90 percent of the time, they don't have enough talent.

"Some of the moves that have been made talent-wise, starting off the bat with (offensive tackle Tony Boselli) have backfired with some of the free-agent moves and big-money contracts. I would point at talent more than the coaching."

Looks like he would want the GM and coach position.

Uprising
11-12-2005, 01:19 PM
I'm down with that.

Rocket River
11-12-2005, 01:59 PM
I would love it
he has a track record
Even in Miami I think he was better
than . . .what we have here

Rocket River

HayesStreet
11-12-2005, 03:19 PM
Yeah, as time has gone by I've become less critical of the big ego. I think when you point at great coaches they all have it. I'd love to see Jimmy come to Houston, and he's from Port Arthur IIRC so its not like he's new to South Texas. Plus he could stick it to Jerry everytime we win a Super Bowl. I thought he did an AWESOME job with Miami's D and their offense would have been ok but they never could get that stud RB he needed. I think Davis, Carr, and Johnson would do just fine under Johnson.

DieHard Rocket
11-12-2005, 03:20 PM
Sign him up.

RocketFan85
11-12-2005, 03:45 PM
I'd love to sign him. Get it done.

Dubious
11-12-2005, 04:20 PM
Maybe since he has been retired he wouldn't want to work that hard, so just make him GM to manage the talent, contracts and drafts. I'm sure Gary Kubiak would be fine with that as head coach.

swilkins
11-12-2005, 05:20 PM
Maybe since he has been retired he wouldn't want to work that hard, so just make him GM to manage the talent, contracts and drafts. I'm sure Gary Kubiak would be fine with that as head coach.

I don't think JJ looks like he needs to take it easy.

I say give him GM and coach and get rid of CC, DC and staff.

gucci888
11-12-2005, 09:38 PM
He wins championships, that's all the resume I need.

LongTimeFan
11-12-2005, 10:21 PM
Maybe we can get a Dallas vs. Houston game on thanksgiving then

Win
11-13-2005, 04:00 AM
I've pretty much hated JJ, his plastic hair and the plastic Cowboys all these years, but the pool of good coaching canidates seems so weak to me, I'm just about ready to say 'plastic hair' ain't so bad.

Drewdog
11-13-2005, 09:26 AM
Bring it.

Im down with JJ. He's had enough off time to cool the ego and hair. :D

Seriously though, this is an excellent choice for head coach and a GM.

Are there others in the NFL that pull the double duty? Cant think of any off the bat.

gucci888
11-13-2005, 11:07 AM
Did JJ have GM duties w/ Dallas or Miami?

Rocket River
11-13-2005, 11:34 AM
*IF* JJ comes here
I think he would want to make an IMMEDIATE impact
and
I know ya'll don't wanna hear it . . . .

I could see him bringing in T.O.

HONESTLY
*IF* we get the #1 Pick

JJ would probably roll with Carr [Aikman]
Draft Reggie Bush [Emmit]
and get T.O. [Irvin] along with A. Johnson

and try to recreate the glory days
I'm not saying any of those players are
of the caliber of those in brackets [except maybe T.O]

then he would spend the rest of the draft on linemen
Defense and offense

IF we do these things. . .we could SERIOUSLY be 8-8 next year

If we get a decent line
Even Carr could get the ball to T.O. and A.J.

Rocket River

CriscoKidd
11-13-2005, 12:01 PM
Normally I'd say giving a guy coach + gm would be a mistake. But in this case it would be a huge positive. Not because JJ is a coaching gawd, but because it would ensure that both Dom and Cassie get the boot, as opposed to just one of them.

Even if JJ failed, it would be a step in the right direction to get those goofballs out of the organization.

And yes, JJ was awesome in D, and had a lot of things go his way. But the rest of the league caught up to him and he really wasn't that great in Miami.

Fegwu
11-13-2005, 02:31 PM
*IF* JJ comes here
I think he would want to make an IMMEDIATE impact
and
I know ya'll don't wanna hear it . . . .

I could see him bringing in T.O.

HONESTLY
*IF* we get the #1 Pick

JJ would probably roll with Carr [Aikman]
Draft Reggie Bush [Emmit]
and get T.O. [Irvin] along with A. Johnson

and try to recreate the glory days
I'm not saying any of those players are
of the caliber of those in brackets [except maybe T.O]

then he would spend the rest of the draft on linemen
Defense and offense

IF we do these things. . .we could SERIOUSLY be 8-8 next year

If we get a decent line
Even Carr could get the ball to T.O. and A.J.

Rocket River


I agree with you on the TO and Bush talk. JJohnson's ego will tell him that he can handle TO just like he did Michael. I perfectly see such a scenario playing out assuming JJ is named coach/GM. But what will he do with DD's new contract? Trade him? You cannot have Bush's huge money and DD's together.

Glish21
11-13-2005, 02:51 PM
Can Bush be an everydown back in the NFL? Either way I think we need to strengthen the line in the draft.

LongTimeFan
11-13-2005, 03:07 PM
Can Bush be an everydown back in the NFL? Either way I think we need to strengthen the line in the draft.

Bush is the best player in the draft.

Bobblehead
11-13-2005, 03:25 PM
Hire JJ...his career speaks for itself:

In 1977, Johnson went to Pittsburgh as their assistant head coach and defensive coordinator. In his two years there he ran one of college football's all-time great defenses. His 14 years as an assistant coach finally ended in 1979 when he took over the rebuilding of the Oklahoma State team as head coach. Taking over a losing program at Oklahoma, Johnson turned it around. In his five seasons there, the team compiled a 29-25 record and had two bowl appearances. Johnson continued his success as head coach of the University of Miami from 1984 to 1988. He led the Hurricanes to a 52-9 record (44-4 over the final four seasons), snagged two Orange Bowl titles and a national championship, and won 36 straight regular season games from 1985 to 1988. The team had the fifth longest winning streak in NCAA history and had 20 consecutive road wins in the four years Johnson was coach. On February 25, 1989, Johnson was named by Jerry Jones as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. He took only one season to bring the team from one win or less per season to playoff qualification, fewer seasons than any other team. In 1991, the team sent four players to the Pro-Bowl, the first since 1979. The Cowboys were the first team in NFL history to produce the leading rusher, Emmit Smith, and receiver, Michael Irvin, in the same year. The 1991 playoff was the Cowboys' first post-season win since 1982 and their first road playoff victory since the 1980 season. The club's 11-5 record in 1991 was their best since 1983. Johnson remained with the Cowboys until 1994 and led them to 2 Super Bowl victories.

rikesh316
11-13-2005, 03:30 PM
Can Bush be an everydown back in the NFL? Either way I think we need to strengthen the line in the draft.

Its not like DD is very durable anyways. He always got some kind of little injury. Bush is the best player so they should draft him. They can use him in so many ways, as a running back, wideout, kick returner, punt returner. This draft has a lot of solid O-lineman but no one stud. The Ferguson kid from Virgina is maybe the best one.

Rocket River
11-13-2005, 05:04 PM
I agree with you on the TO and Bush talk. JJohnson's ego will tell him that he can handle TO just like he did Michael. I perfectly see such a scenario playing out assuming JJ is named coach/GM. But what will he do with DD's new contract? Trade him? You cannot have Bush's huge money and DD's together.

he worth maybe a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick.
I could definately see him spending rounds 2~6 on linemen
Defensive and Offensive

DD and Bradford may be gone
one traded the other cut



Rocket River

jopatmc
11-13-2005, 11:15 PM
The only way that JJ would draft Bush is if we traded down the #1 and picked up a LT in the trade along with somebody's #3 pick to draft Bush. JJ would load this team up on offensive lineman. Remember those great Dallas lines? That's why Smith ran for 17000 yards. Smith was not rated real high coming out of college. Everybody thought he was too small.

IROC it
11-14-2005, 12:18 AM
"How 'bout them Texans?!"


:D

Austin70
11-14-2005, 08:10 AM
Get r done!

rrj_gamz
11-14-2005, 09:25 AM
We need something...

A-Train
11-14-2005, 11:55 AM
There's a better chance me turning into a 7'6" Chinese guy than Jimmy Johnson coming back to coaching...

gucci888
11-14-2005, 12:00 PM
Its not like DD is very durable anyways. He always got some kind of little injury. Bush is the best player so they should draft him. They can use him in so many ways, as a running back, wideout, kick returner, punt returner. This draft has a lot of solid O-lineman but no one stud. The Ferguson kid from Virgina is maybe the best one.

D'Brickshaw Ferguson is a stud and would be worth a top 3 pick. He would have been a top 10 pick last season if he had come out early, I can only imagine how much stronger and smarter he has gotten in the mean time.

I look at what Pace and Walter Jones have done, these are franchise type players, I think Ferguson could be one of those type of players.

HayesStreet
11-14-2005, 02:23 PM
Bush is the best player in the draft.

He's not even the best running back on his team.

IROC it
11-14-2005, 07:11 PM
He's not even the best running back on his team.


No. But the best "player" as stated.

dskillz
11-15-2005, 09:20 AM
No. But the best "player" as stated.


Doesn't matter if that "best player" doesn't help you address your needs. We need to fix that line. That is the #1 priority. If there are questions about his durability, getting killed because our O-line can't open any holes for him is not a good thing.

rrj_gamz
11-15-2005, 05:09 PM
Not sure what to say as JJ would be a great motivator/talker, however, until we address the Oline, its moot...However, JJ can draft and that should help us, but I bet to get rid of the crap, it'll still take 2-3 years...

ROCKSS
11-17-2005, 09:13 AM
I dont see it, I think JJ is past his prime. When he coached the Dolphins the fire that he had with the Cowboys wasnt there, and his draft picks were not that great. I am a huge Dolphin fan and was excited when he came to coach, but I think he likes his life down in the Keys and spending Sunday second guessing everyone.