IF T.O. gets waived...Would you want him on the Texans

[Nashvegas]

It goes in reverse order to see has the first shot at claiming him off waivers.

1. Houston
2. Green Bay

It probably won't happen, but what would you think? Do it, don't do it?

[codell]

No way.

1) The Texans have enough problems without bringing a proven cancer into the locker room.

2) You could claim him all you want. T.O. would refuse to play 1 down for a team in our current position.

[rocketfan83]

I love TO he's defintely in my top 5 favorite players.

But it wouldn't work in Houston. I mean if he had a problem with Garcia and MCNabb. It'd be pretty clear he'd have a problem with Carr.

But man TO and AJ that'd be a nasty 1-2 combo.

But thats just a dream

I have no idea where TO will end up. I'm hoping Oakland or maybe Cinci. The last place I see him is Houston.

[Rocket River]

no one will pick him up
because they would have to pick up his contract
and
he wants another one
So
Let him pass waivers then negotiate

Rocket River

[LongTimeFan]

I don't see how the Texans can pass on him. He's a cancer, ya so what? What's he going to do, ruin our great team chemistry and terrific start? Sign him up, shake things up.

[The Real Shady]

I don't see how the Texans can pass on him. He's a cancer, ya so what? What's he going to do, ruin our great team chemistry and terrific start? Sign him up, shake things up.

Owens is never happy anywhere he plays. Can you imagine how much crap he would talk if he was stuck on the Texans. It would be a terrible situation for everyone.

[Miguel]

No.




Not just no. HELL NAW!

[CometsWin]

I don't see how the Texans can pass on him. He's a cancer, ya so what? What's he going to do, ruin our great team chemistry and terrific start? Sign him up, shake things up.

I agree. Plus, it will help us determine if Carr has what it takes to be a quality QB. If he can't play well with TO and Andre Johnson on the field then we can move on.

[JPM0016]

no, no and no

[Kerfeld]

NO WAY!

[emjohn]

Owens would never accept coming to a last-place squad, and it's far too clear to everyone that he's a cancer.

Evan

[russian88]

Sign him and see what happens. What else could go wrong this year?

[reggietodd]

hell no

[PhiSlammaJamma]

Well, at least we would get some entertainment out of this season. I say we do it.

[TMac640]

send some "negotiators" to his house.

[Air Langhi]

If you are 1-6 what can it hurt.

[david_rocket]

Sign him and trade for a better Offensive Line, that is that we need!!

[noscrusir]

do it!

Not like anything else has been working... we need another receiver badly. If it doesn't go well, just cut him.

[edwardc]

hell to the yeah

[OldManBernie]

no one will pick him up
because they would have to pick up his contract
and
he wants another one
So
Let him pass waivers then negotiate

Rocket River

If I am correct, if Texans claim him off waivers, they do not inherit the signing bonus. That means Texans would be able to waive him with no hit to the salary cap. Can someone else verify this?

[Creepy Crawl]

I love TO he's defintely in my top 5 favorite players.

But it wouldn't work in Houston. I mean if he had a problem with Garcia and MCNabb. It'd be pretty clear he'd have a problem with Carr.

But man TO and AJ that'd be a nasty 1-2 combo.

But thats just a dream

I have no idea where TO will end up. I'm hoping Oakland or maybe Cinci. The last place I see him is Houston.


Cinci ............ wow with TO , Chad Johnson , and Houshmandzadeh , that would be a hell of a trio for Carson Palmer to throw too . :eek:

I would loike to have To no doubt . I see it as just a pipedream though .

[MustangPride73]

If you are Charly Casserly and Dom Capers why not do it,if things continue the way they are going you're likey gone, why not take a chance and hope it pans out. You're getting fired anyways would be the logic.

That of course does not factor in Bob McNair

[Svpernaut]

I'd rather the Texans go 1-15 this year and next then sign that ass-clown. ANYONE who wants this guy on their team is pathetic in my opinion... GMs and Coaches should have stood up to TO and others like him YEARS ago, it would be great if no one signed him and he went into oblivion and I didn't have to hear anymore 15 minute segments on Sportscenter every night about the bastard.

[xiki]

If he were waived and if Texans claimed him then there is the matter of cutting someone or several to get back under the cap.

However, why would Texans select him? He has talent, and a talented mouth. Two disqualifiers for Charley 'I'm a personnel god' Casserly.

[Another Brother]

Bob McNair is too classy, I would be very surprised.

[H-Town Info]

hell f'n no. he should go to the raiders though and they could get rid of jerry porter to us :D

[swilkins]

T.O. is one of those football freaks that compensates his football talent with an under-developed brain.

I really don't think it's worth picking him up. Somebody will and he'll implode them like he did the Eagles.

[Saint Louis]

The Texans should pass. T.O. is only fit to play for the Raiders now. The Raiders is where every NFL malcontent goes to play.

[pgabriel]

because that's all they need to compete for a superbowl. seriously the only teams that need to look at T.O. are teams ready to make a leap, not teams ready to implode. I'm sure he'd be so happy on a 1-8 squad. Don't let this turn into the GARM.

[Summer Song Giver]

TO should be blackballed by every team in the league, let the malcontent go play for pennies on the dollar, that should humble him some.

[Hakeem06]

lets see to has a problem with a WINNING team, he comes to a 1-7 team......i don't even want to know...........

[HillBoy]

What good is his talent to you if he destroys your team chemistry with his "I love me some me" philosophy. Plus, and that's a BIG plus, whoever signs him would have to cough up a BIG contract to make him "happy". Even then, there is simply no guarantee that once he gets "shown the money" he will settle down and be a good team player. His personal history tells us that that is not so - then he'll start griping about not getting the ball or enough "catches" and he'll turn on his teammates like he did at San Fran & Philly in order to advance his own agenda. His history also tells us that if things start to go bad on you, he will also. Plus, once you give him that big contract, he becomes untradeable. Now you are really stuck because if you cut him outright to rid yourself of him, you virtually destroy yourself salary capwise. The Texans have enough problems already with looking for more trouble and believe me, T.O. is trouble with a capital "T".

[Saint Louis]

lets see to has a problem with a WINNING team, he comes to a 1-7 team......i don't even want to know...........

The only way T.O. will be happy is if he is playing with himself.

[Tonaaayyyy]

The only way T.O. will be happy is if he is playing with himself.


... are we talking football? :eek:

[rrj_gamz]

Would love to see it, but it wouldn't happen...First thing is the money...Secondly, why would he play for last place...He'll end up in Oakland...

[Drewdog]

hell and no

[xiki]

The Texans should pass.


First they have to block.

[geeimsobored]

Would love to see it, but it wouldn't happen...First thing is the money...Secondly, why would he play for last place...He'll end up in Oakland...

Randy Moss and TO, what a duo...

If for some inane reason he ends up there, I give it 4 games tops before they start going after each other. They'll get off to a bad start, blame each other, and all hell breaks lose. It'll be fun to watch

[reggietodd]

Randy Moss and TO, what a duo...

If for some inane reason he ends up there, I give it 4 games tops before they start going after each other. They'll get off to a bad start, blame each other, and all hell breaks lose. It'll be fun to watch

Actually Moss has been really quiet and reserved lately, I think he finally grew up.

[Groogrux]

Actually Moss has been really quiet and reserved lately, I think he finally grew up.

I'm guessing Owens probably had a lot to do with that.

[droxford]

I vote 'no'.

One great receiver is not even close to addressing our problems, and the Texans would receive much more harm than good from the breakdown in chemistry he brings.

[ima_drummer2k]

Maybe you should ask these people (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=104107l)

:)

[droxford]

Maybe you should ask these people (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=104107l)

:)

Yeah - but that thread needed to be a poll.

[Groogrux]

Yeah - but that thread needed to be a poll.

Not really.

[Austin70]

TO has as many threads as the cheerleaders who had sex in the bathrooom.

[msn]

The question is really, "Now that the season is a complete failure, would you like to turn the franchise into a complete circus for the entertainment value?"

I voted no.

[msn]

TO has as many threads as the cheerleaders who had sex in the bathrooom.
Those brats on 610 needed to back off of that a little bit. They reminded me of 6th graders in health class giggling then the teacher said, "vagina".

[The Real Shady]

I'd want the Texans to pick him up if we can get a clause in his contract where he has to wear a muzzle at all times.

[gbritton]

apparently he thinks highly of brett favre. maybe he should go play for the ****ty packers... they dont have any WRs, so he wouldnt have to share the spotlight there with anyone.

[Toast]

Sign him and trade for a better Offensive Line, that is that we need!!

First I voted no. Then I started reading the thread. This seems like a pretty good idea. Pick him up off waivers. He makes decent trade bait. Hell, we should at least be able to get a good draft pick if not someone to firm up the O line for a guy like TO, right?

And besides, if I remember correctly, the way his contract is structured, he's only supposed to make something like $700G's next year (then it balloons to over 6 mil a season ... or something like that). It's not like that creates all sorts of crazy risk. If we can't trade him, we can keep him for a year and then dump him.

I'm starting to warm up to the idea.

[gbritton]

i would love it if owens came to the texans. it wouldnt ever happen b/c we are the worst team in the nfl, and he doesnt want anything to do with that. the guy was gettin pissed off and upset b/c his team was losing. he hates to lose... you cant knock on him for that. it was the same reason why he left san fran... its b/c his team sucked while he busted his ass. he played in the super bowl injured...and not only played, but played well. his attitude sure isnt great, but you gotta love how determined he is to win.

[Summer Song Giver]

I'm tired of people whining that he played in the SB hurt, it is nothing that hasn't been done before. Hell Emmitt Smith played in a regular season game with a seperated shoulder, rushed for over 200 yards and he never hung it over everyone like TO has, the guy's selfish and is a cancer on any team he goes to. He may not be a bad guy in real life but he is death to any team he has ever played on. That is what Rosenpenis and TO fail to see. The worst person in the world can still be a good teammate and no matter how bad they are off the field teammates will defend them. TO makes it impossible for any one like him or defend him. Good guy or not he is a terrible teammate who at the first sign of trouble throws everyone around him under the bus.

[swilkins]

If someone walked up to T.O. and asked him if he thought about playing for the Texans, he would laugh.

[Nashvegas]

for arguments sake....he is waived, and we/another team claims him off waivers. They pick up his contract right? At that point, what rights does he have if he refuses to play for us, or whomever picks him up off waivers?

The only way he could pick and choose where he wants to go would be for him to clear waivers and at that point he becomes a free agent right?

[Rocket River]

If T O made it so the Texans went on a 6 game winning streak
you bet your *ss Capers and Casserly would have him suited up
and serving him Tea and Crumpets

Rocket River

[droxford]

If T O made it so the Texans went on a 6 game winning streak
you bet your *ss Capers and Casserly would have him suited up
and serving him Tea and Crumpets

Rocket River

Yes.

But do you think that bringing TO to the Texans would put us on a 6 game winning streak?

I mean, yeah, our receivers aren't as good as TO, but we've got a lot more problems and a lot broader problems than just one receiver.

And if he constantly gave lip to McNabb and And Reid (breaking down a lot of team chemistry), how bad do you think it would be with Carr and Capers?

[No Worries]

Randy Moss and TO, what a duo...
If this happens, RM and TO would be smart if they did a reality TV show for their one season together in Oakland. It would sell. Throw in a couple of lesbian cheerleaders and you might get a blockbuster hit.

[nWo34Life]

Well, the Texans said no...

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3451298

McNair says Texans don't want Owens
Owner sees WR doing more harm than good
By JOHN MCCLAIN
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

Texans owner Bob McNair would love to have a chance to acquire a lot of NFL players to help solve his problems, but Philadelphia receiver Terrell Owens is not one of them.

During a break in preparations for Sunday's game at unbeaten Indianapolis, McNair was asked if he would consider signing Owens once Philadelphia has washed its hands of him.

"He's almost dismantled the Eagles; why would you wish that on us?" McNair said with a laugh. "I've already got enough problems."

The Texans are 1-7 and in need of help at a lot of positions, but McNair wouldn't consider the controversial Owens, who has been suspended for four games by the Eagles and was placed on the reserve/suspended list Wednesday.

Owens is hoping an independent arbitrator will rule that he can play this season — if not for the Eagles then for another team.

"Some things can overcome talent, and he's figured out how to do that," McNair said. "Football's a team sport, and when a player thinks he's more important than the team, it's just not going to work."

Rather than add a receiver such as Owens to the roster, McNair wants his group of Andre Johnson, Jabar Gaffney, Corey Bradford, Jerome Mathis and Derick Armstrong to get healthy the second half of the season.

"We're going through tough times right now, but we're going to work through it," McNair said. "We've got players that are committed to helping us get through this. We don't need a disruptive influence like that."


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TEXANS SUMMARY

Bad news for rookie

Just as the Texans had started reaping the benefits of the wholesale changes they made to the offensive line four weeks ago, more changes are imminent.

Rookie center Drew Hodgdon may need season-ending foot surgery. Hodgdon left Sunday's game early after spraining the arch in his foot. Hodgdon, who started the last three games at center, is getting a second opinion, but the Texans fear his season is over.

"He's getting a second opinion, but chances are we could lose Drew for the year," coach Dom Capers said.

Hodgdon's injury is similar to that of former Texans fullback Jarrod Baxter, who missed the 2003 season after undergoing surgery to repair a severe sprain in the middle of his foot.

Weary might start

Without Drew Hodgdon this weekend against Indianapolis, Fred Weary may earn his first start of the season.

At this point, the Texans plan to start Chester Pitts at left tackle, Milford Brown at left guard, Steve McKinney at center and Todd Wade at right tackle. The Texans are practicing with Weary and Victor Riley at right guard this week.

Weary started one game last season for the Texans at right guard, but the former third-round pick of the Texans has been inactive for the first eight games of this season.

"This is my chance to get out there and maybe make a statement about myself," Weary said.

Injury update

The Texans had six players sit out of practice Wednesday, but only three of them likely will not play Sunday. Center Drew Hodgdon (foot) will miss the game. Right guard Zach Wiegert (ankle) and cornerback Demarcus Faggins (hamstring) are doubtful.

Wide receiver Jerome Mathis sat out practice because of his hamstring. He was warming up to play Sunday when he pulled it again. He remains questionable for Sunday. Center Todd Washington (neck) also missed practice and is questionable. Defensive end Gary Walker (shoulder) did not practice but is expected to play.

Running back Domanick Davis (knee) did participate in a limited number of drills Wednesday and is listed as questionable.

WR Andre Johnson (calf), WR Corey Bradford (hand), TE Marcellus Rivers (knee), LB Antwan Peek (shoulder) and DE Robaire Smith (back) are listed as probable.

MEGAN MANFULL

[droxford]

OUCH! Hey, TO! The worst team in football just said they don't want you!

He's almost dismantled the Eagles; why would you wish that on us?" McNair said with a laugh. "I've already got enough problems."
What a fantastic quote. We not only don't want him, we laugh at the idea. I love it.

[Groogrux]

What a fantastic quote. We not only don't want him, we laugh at the idea. I love it.

And we laugh at how many problems we have?

[droxford]

And we laugh at how many problems we have?


yeah.... heh... that ain't so funny.

[Faos]

Screw it. Bring TO to H-town just for the remainder of the year. This team needs some excitement, even if it doesn't bring any more wins. I want a reason to watch.

[PhiSlammaJamma]

T.O. is a game changer. He makes the whole team better on the field. The Defense. The Offense. I think you put him on the Texans and suddenly they are 8-8 or 10-6. I'm serious.

[MadMax]

T.O. is a game changer. He makes the whole team better on the field. The Defense. The Offense. I think you put him on the Texans and suddenly they are 8-8 or 10-6. I'm serious.

i think you're wrong! :)

this team needs more than one guy to be a team capable of making the playoffs. i think you greatly overestimate the ability of one man to turn a sucky team into a good one.

[msn]

And we laugh at how many problems we have?
No, we laugh at the idiotic notion of adding yet another problem.

[Chance]

Team chemistry? there is no team chemistry. If you voted no then you don't want to win next year.

1-15. JJ, RB, TO. 2-14. Carr for an OT. VY. 11-5.

[Lil Francis]

Owens wants to play for a contender with a good QB so you can scratch the Texans off that list. If he was unhappy in Philly with McNabb (one of the best QB's in the game) then why in the hell would he want to play with Carr.

[KingCheetah]

Houston would have to take a player of TO's caliber ~ they could trade him or if they held him ---> TO, R. Bush, A Johnson...