View Full Version : [Game One] Astros @ Cards
Castor27
10-10-2005, 11:48 AM
NLCS Edition:
All game talk goes in here. Please do not give play by play. If you need play by play go to CBS, ESPN, or Yahoo.
Wednesday 10-12 @ TBD and will be dependent on who wins the other ALDS.
Probable Pitchers:
Andy Pettitte vs Chris Carpenter
Gummi Clutch
10-10-2005, 11:51 AM
FIRST!
GO STROS!!!
MadMax
10-10-2005, 11:52 AM
i think the astros win game one....and i think that's HUGE. i think if they steal one in St. Louis, they'll win in 6 or 7 at St. Louis.
Tonaaayyyy
10-10-2005, 11:53 AM
I don't know how we do it but if we made it this far than theres no doubt we're going to the World Series!
Astros in 6!
NJRocket
10-10-2005, 11:55 AM
Astros in 5
Can someone tell me the Brad Lidge song ....a link would be great
MadMax
10-10-2005, 11:56 AM
Astros in 5
YOU HAD ME AT HELLO.
NJRocket
10-10-2005, 11:58 AM
YOU HAD ME AT HELLO.
Who loves ya baby!
I was there by 10 AM for BP yesterday and left MMP at around 630 or 7....it was surreal.
When we get a 2 out HR to center from Ausmus....there aint no stoppin us!
Groogrux
10-10-2005, 12:01 PM
Astros 4
Cards 2
Pettitte remains strong and we get to a strugging Carpenter before he rights his ship. Ensberg will once again be the game one hero with a two run HR.
MadMax
10-10-2005, 12:05 PM
Who loves ya baby!
I was there by 10 AM for BP yesterday and left MMP at around 630 or 7....it was surreal.
When we get a 2 out HR to center from Ausmus....there aint no stoppin us!
i grabbed an early lunch with my son at Live...and walked over. he was a trooper, going all 18 innings!! :)
kaleidosky
10-10-2005, 12:08 PM
Astros in 6!
Game 1: Stros 3, Cards 2
ROCKSS
10-10-2005, 12:14 PM
Astros in 7
BranJ17
10-10-2005, 12:20 PM
Astros in 5
Can someone tell me the Brad Lidge song ....a link would be great
I don't have a link but the song is actually titled "The Game" By RadioHead....believe it or not it is the Entrance Song to WWE's own Triple H.
DaDakota
10-10-2005, 12:20 PM
Astros in 6.
GO STROS !!
DD
NJRocket
10-10-2005, 12:23 PM
I don't have a link but the song is actually titled "The Game" By RadioHead....believe it or not it is the Entrance Song to WWE's own Triple H.
Thank you....i thought it was "The Game " by Disturbed and i couldnt figure out why it was different :p
much appreicated
Zac D
10-10-2005, 12:25 PM
I don't have a link but the song is actually titled "The Game" By RadioHead....believe it or not it is the Entrance Song to WWE's own Triple H.
Right title, wrong band - Drowning Pool sings it.
Here we go again!
I love when these two teams go at it. The play is usually great on both sides, and the excitement and anticipation level is always "edge of your seat". Probably the most underrated rivalry in baseball. I cant say it enough...... I love it when these two teams play.
NJRocket
10-10-2005, 12:35 PM
Right title, wrong band - Drowning Pool sings it.
Thanks
shawn786
10-10-2005, 12:38 PM
I have 'Stros in 6!
Harrisment
10-10-2005, 01:04 PM
Damn, you guys are confident predicting a win in game 1 after the way Carpenter has dominated us. He hasn't looked untouchable lately though, so maybe we can get him out in the 6th and get to that bullpen.
Astros 2
Cards 1
23 innings
akperez
10-10-2005, 01:14 PM
Does anyone know if there are any tickets available?
Luckyazn
10-10-2005, 01:17 PM
Does anyone know if there are any tickets available?
Tickets for the NLCS has been sold out. You can check www.ebay.com there's aloot there.
MadMax
10-10-2005, 01:30 PM
Does anyone know if there are any tickets available?
as of this morning, you could still get standing room only tickets at astros.com
Miguel
10-10-2005, 01:38 PM
akperez, I sent you an email.
No, I don't have tickets, but the auction I sent you is probably the best you're going to find if you want to sit in the lower level. If it weren't for me spending my money on tickets to the Astros game yesterday, I'd probably be buying those.
Harrisment
10-10-2005, 01:49 PM
as of this morning, you could still get standing room only tickets at astros.com
Really? I tried last night and standing room was sold out for all 3 games. Maybe they released more at some point, all sold out again now.
MadMax
10-10-2005, 01:50 PM
Really? I tried last night and standing room was sold out for all 3 games. Maybe they released more at some point, all sold out again now.
oh, sorry...i just saw that there was a link to buy SRO tickets this morning on astros.com.
i got two SRO tickets to game 4 on Thursday.
tim562
10-10-2005, 01:58 PM
Its all about the Momentum. Astros in 6, we win game one.
Harrisment
10-10-2005, 02:00 PM
Is anyone else sitting here wondering how the hell they are going to make it through the next 2 days?
Miguel
10-10-2005, 02:01 PM
Is anyone else sitting here wondering how the hell they are going to make it through the next 2 days?
Editing video of game 3, half of game 4, and hoping I can get the 2nd half of game 4 from someone either on tape or DVD.
HERE COMES THE PAAAAAAAAIN!!!
PAIN!
Svpernaut
10-10-2005, 02:01 PM
Is anyone else sitting here wondering how the hell they are going to make it through the next 2 days?
I know I am... and I'm off today which just makes it worse.
MadMax
10-10-2005, 02:04 PM
Is anyone else sitting here wondering how the hell they are going to make it through the next 2 days?
2 days?? i'm wondering how i'll get through the next couple of weeks, especially if they advance to the World Series.
MR. MEOWGI
10-10-2005, 02:07 PM
Is anyone else sitting here wondering how the hell they are going to make it through the next 2 days?
The Rockets playing tommorrow helps.
Uprising
10-10-2005, 02:16 PM
Stros win! Stros win!
Andy is a gawd in the post season.
The Rockets playing tommorrow helps.
I had no idea about this... and I'm as diehard as they come.
Thanks!
Miguel
10-10-2005, 02:17 PM
IT'S GONE! IT'S GONE! IT'S GONE! HOLY TOLEDO!
The Real Shady
10-10-2005, 02:18 PM
Clemens said Pettite was sick. I hope he's at full strength for game 1.
Harrisment
10-10-2005, 02:20 PM
Clemens said Pettite was sick. I hope he's at full strength for game 1.
I'd say they could get him over any flu like symptoms within 4 days.
geeimsobored
10-10-2005, 02:24 PM
I was at the game on Saturday and when they were annoucing everyone on the team, everyone started to boo jose cruz.
Can someone tell me why everyone's so down on the 1st base coach?
Miguel
10-10-2005, 02:25 PM
I was at the game on Saturday and when they were annoucing everyone on the team, everyone started to boo jose cruz.
Can someone tell me why everyone's so down on the 1st base coach?
CRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ
LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE
ALOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
They're not booing.
astroagg
10-10-2005, 02:26 PM
I was at the game on Saturday and when they were annoucing everyone on the team, everyone started to boo jose cruz.
Can someone tell me why everyone's so down on the 1st base coach?
They were saying CRRRRUUUUUUUUUUZZZZZ!
Back in the day, he was one of the fan favorites.
MR. MEOWGI
10-10-2005, 02:27 PM
I was at the game on Saturday and when they were annoucing everyone on the team, everyone started to boo jose cruz.
Can someone tell me why everyone's so down on the 1st base coach?
I feel old.
geeimsobored
10-10-2005, 02:45 PM
haha cool.
Thanks for clearing that up though
akperez
10-10-2005, 02:47 PM
The Rockets playing tommorrow helps.
My thoughts exactly! This is the best week ever! :D
King of 40 Acres
10-10-2005, 03:04 PM
Astros come off the dramatic clincher to beat the Cards 5-2. Remember, the Astros won two games at Busch late in the season, including the last one when Carpenter was the Redbirds' starter. I believe with the confidence from those two wins in STL and the momentum from Game 4 against ATL that the Astros will win the series in 6 games.
astroagg
10-10-2005, 03:06 PM
I feel old.
Me too. And I'm only in my early 30's....
But I loved the Astros back then as much as I do now.
akperez
10-10-2005, 03:10 PM
I was at the game on Saturday and when they were annoucing everyone on the team, everyone started to boo jose cruz.
Can someone tell me why everyone's so down on the 1st base coach?
That was classic! LOL!
Svpernaut
10-10-2005, 03:15 PM
Me too. And I'm only in my early 30's....
But I loved the Astros back then as much as I do now.
I was born in 78, so I grew up with Jose and the gang. Glenn Davis was my idol until Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio came along.
Buck Turgidson
10-10-2005, 03:20 PM
I was at the game on Saturday and when they were annoucing everyone on the team, everyone started to boo jose cruz.
Can someone tell me why everyone's so down on the 1st base coach?
This might be the funniest post in the history of this forum.
I was born in 78, so I grew up with Jose and the gang. Glenn Davis was my idol until Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio came along.
I was born just a tad earlier than you. I remember being *bent* when I'd come home from school and Scooby-Doo was preempted on Channel 26 by the Astros. Of course, that all changed...
Thon and Doran, Cruz, Ash, Garner, Walling, Ryan, Sambito, Ruhle, Reynolds, Puhl, Tony Scott... Those were the days!! I remember Don Sutton pitching for us for two years. Omar Moreno for a year, Jerry Mumphrey, Ray Knight... Joaquin Andujar was a freak, Kerfeld was fat, Seņor Smoke was even fatter... The coneheads were funny... Fred Brocklander is a freaking idiot...
RocketMan Tex
10-10-2005, 03:36 PM
My first year in Astros Buddies, my buddy was Cesar Cedeno.
:D
Fegwu
10-10-2005, 03:39 PM
I have Stros in 4.
David_D just reported on ESPN790 that Andy is recorving from flu like symptoms. He said Tim Purp informed the media that Andy will be ready for game one.
Game 1 = Andy P (Goodmorning)
Game 2 = Roy O (Goodafternoon)
Game 3 = Roger C (Goodnight)
Game 4 = Brandon B (Thanks for coming)
I cannot believe that most Cards fans think we don't stand a chance :rolleyes:
RocketJedi
10-10-2005, 03:44 PM
You can always kill a little time by watching the Yankees/Angels game 5 tonight. You know just to scout ahead. ;)
I have the Stros in 7, but I pray for 5 or 6. It's just the Astros never take the easy road.
Svpernaut
10-10-2005, 03:49 PM
I have the Stros in 7, but I pray for 5 or 6. It's just the Astros never take the easy road.
Yeah, it took us 5 in the 2005 NLDS even though a game 5 was never played! ;-)
Groogrux
10-10-2005, 03:52 PM
Yeah, it took us 5 in the 2005 NLDS even though a game 5 was never played! ;-)
Game 5=10th-18th innings yesterday.
:D
nWo34Life
10-10-2005, 03:52 PM
Found this on Fark:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3433/managers4vd.jpg
Rule0001
10-10-2005, 03:55 PM
you can always get tickets of course via scalpers and online ticket sites of course
it's never TOO LATE, but to not get gouged, it is
lol
WizzyWig
10-10-2005, 03:58 PM
I can always appreciate an expert analysis of this series, but check out what this idiot thinks of our starters:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/playoffs/houstl;_ylt=ArZB62H7o2hTNdI9nZ_.LbERvLYF
by the way, he also picked the Braves to beat us...so lets hope he's consistent.
Rule0001
10-10-2005, 04:03 PM
stros won't do it easy
stros in 7 (although less would we a plus :D)
MR. MEOWGI
10-10-2005, 04:03 PM
Found this on Fark:
And I just found this:
http://fishki.net/podborka/baseball.jpg
Svpernaut
10-10-2005, 04:13 PM
Found this on Fark:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3433/managers4vd.jpg
hahaha!
RocketJedi
10-10-2005, 04:21 PM
As if we should listen to anything Sandberg has to say. Let us look at his incisive NLDS predictions:
Yahoo! (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/playoffs/houatl)
My favorite part:
Intangibles Atlanta won its 14th consecutive division title
Bottom Line: Braves in five
NJRocket
10-10-2005, 04:22 PM
Did you guys hear that the same guy caught both the Berkman GS and Burke's HR?
RocketJedi
10-10-2005, 04:26 PM
I can always appreciate an expert analysis of this series, but check out what this idiot thinks of our starters:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/playoffs/houstl;_ylt=ArZB62H7o2hTNdI9nZ_.LbERvLYF
by the way, he also picked the Braves to beat us...so lets hope he's consistent.
This is so ludicrous. He gives the Cards the edge in starting pitching even if as he says, 'If Mulder can't pitch, St. Louis still has Suppan and Marquis'. Give me a break, he just wants an excuse to pick against the Stros. I don't really know why I care what this Cubs homer has to say, it just irks me that's all.
Rule0001
10-10-2005, 04:26 PM
Did you guys hear that the same guy caught both the Berkman GS and Burke's HR?
about 3-4 times :D
and ryan sandberg is an idiot, case closed.
RocketJedi
10-10-2005, 04:27 PM
Did you guys hear that the same guy caught both the Berkman GS and Burke's HR?
He's the anti-Bartman. He better be sitting there for the rest of the post season when the Stros play at MMP. :D
solid
10-10-2005, 04:50 PM
Cards have more talent; Astros will score more runs, barely. A tough series, close, maybe seven games, but Astro pitching will prevail. The Astros must win this series to prevent the Cards from embarassing themselves again in a World Series. Last year, the Cards laid a colossal egg. Wow, that was weak. They simply don't deserve to represent the National League. They must be required to go home. Destiny must be fulfilled. Astros/Yankees, it simply must happen.
Lil Francis
10-10-2005, 04:55 PM
Im taking the Stros in 6. The Cards are the best team in baseball but I think the Stros can beat anybody right now. It would be nice if Willy T could hit a walkoff shot in this series and then send the ball to Beltran.
MadMax
10-10-2005, 04:56 PM
Gametime Wednesday is 7p.m.!!!
JUST CONFIRMED ON 610!!
BMoney
10-10-2005, 05:02 PM
Me too. And I'm only in my early 30's....
But I loved the Astros back then as much as I do now.
I was at game five of the 1980 Playoff heartbreaking loss against the Phillies...yesterday exorcised those demons. I could not be more thrilled with this team.
The other most memorable game I attended...Jose Cruz hitting a walkoff homer to beat the Cardinals on a nationally televised (NBC) game in 1986. Good omen!
Astros in six!
thacabbage
10-10-2005, 05:04 PM
Dude, this is such BS, living on the East Coast I'm going to get stuck with Game 2 of the ALCS now instead of Astros. :(
rocketfan83
10-10-2005, 05:07 PM
Dude, this is such BS, living on the East Coast I'm going to get stuck with Game 2 of the ALCS now instead of Astros. :(
I remember last year I caught the Astros NLCS on FX. While the the Yankees Soxed duked it out on FOX.
I hope they do that again...
BabyClutch
10-10-2005, 05:14 PM
as of this morning, you could still get standing room only tickets at astros.com
Ahhh! dont tell me that! I checked yesterday and they were alllll gone!
astroagg
10-10-2005, 05:19 PM
I was at game five of the 1980 Playoff heartbreaking loss against the Phillies...yesterday exorcised those demons. I could not be more thrilled with this team.
The other most memorable game I attended...Jose Cruz hitting a walkoff homer to beat the Cardinals on a nationally televised (NBC) game in 1986. Good omen!
Astros in six!
I spent the summer in Houston in 86, and saw the All-star game work out, and several Astros games. I take pirde in seeing the Game vs the Mets where Craig Reynolds hit a walk-off HR to win the game. That was the game where the Astros went into 1st place to stay.
But I agree that yesterday exorcised all those demons for the past. Heck, for the Braves it was catastrophe of Oileresque proportions. ;)
Uprising
10-10-2005, 05:22 PM
Who is still living the Astros High right now?! I swear I couldn't focus at all today.....I'm still shaky from yesterday's game.
Svpernaut
10-10-2005, 05:50 PM
Who is still living the Astros High right now?! I swear I couldn't focus at all today.....I'm still shaky from yesterday's game.
I know I do... luckily I was off today.
Fatty FatBastard
10-10-2005, 05:59 PM
NLCS Edition:
WWWWWWWW.
tim562
10-10-2005, 06:01 PM
I still can't believe it!!!! WOW!! :D
thewaterox
10-10-2005, 06:54 PM
Stros need to get game 1 against the Cards to have the best chance of beating them. Last year when they got down to the Red Sox they couldn't right their ship. Put them in an unfamiliar situation like being down after game one and the pressure will be on them big time. They are so used to steam rolling other teams that they don't respond well when things don't go their way.
Harrisment
10-10-2005, 07:00 PM
If we can beat Carpenter in game 1, I think we will win the series. I honestly don't feel that confident about us being able to beat him, but hopefully we can carry the momentum over from the huge win yesterday.
russian88
10-10-2005, 07:13 PM
Scrub Ryan sandberg thinks the Cards have better pitching
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/playoffs/houstl;_ylt=Am2.K0RUKfr6S.B9zeVFwaE5nYcB
That's alright. He also picked the braves.
Castor27
10-10-2005, 07:17 PM
If both games are 7:00 start times each teams local market will carry the game on FOX. Whatever game is not carried on FOX will be carried on FX. That was discussed today on ESPN Radio and they said that was how FOX wanted to do things. Only way you don't get the opportunity to see both games is if you do not have FX, and live in a market showing the ALCS on FOX.
Deckard
10-10-2005, 07:24 PM
Who is still living the Astros High right now?! I swear I couldn't focus at all today.....I'm still shaky from yesterday's game.
Still floatin'. My Mom was up visiting, and it was a gas seeing her get so damned excited. She's 82 years old. :)
What a game!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
weakfromtoday
10-10-2005, 08:11 PM
Astros in 6!!!
1000th POST!!!
WizzyWig
10-10-2005, 08:38 PM
Scrub Ryan sandberg thinks the Cards have better pitching
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/playoffs/houstl;_ylt=Am2.K0RUKfr6S.B9zeVFwaE5nYcB
That's alright. He also picked the braves.
Yeah we got that on pg.2...but it's okay we can never bash Sandberg enough for his stupidity.
IROC it
10-10-2005, 11:53 PM
Okay, well I tried to get this thing (mojo) going in the other thread...
Here it is again...
http://users4.ev1.net/~yarrum/gostros.gif
FrontRowJoe
10-11-2005, 12:00 AM
I was born in 78, so I grew up with Jose and the gang. Glenn Davis was my idol until Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio came along.
Really? Glenn Davis? He had to bat his way out of so many 0-2 counts, I suspect the guy was BORN with two strikes. Personally, I loved Jose and Craig Reynolds (who, if you ever talk to him, is a helluva nice guy with some hilarious stories to tell). Cruz is one of the great clutch hitters in the history of this club, and seemed able to just slap one over the shortstop whenever we needed it.
Oh yeah, Astros in 6, but they're all tight games.
nigma2000
10-11-2005, 12:07 AM
I think the Astros must get a split in the first two to have a chance to win, if they go down 0-2 I don't think they can come back and win the next 3 like last year.
This series definetly should get the main attention from the country. Hopefully these teams can repeat this for a few more years and become the NL's version of Red-Sox/Yankees rivalry.
weakfromtoday
10-11-2005, 12:20 AM
I was born in 78, so I grew up with Jose and the gang. Glenn Davis was my idol until Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio came along.
I was born in '80 so same kinda deal. Except my favorite player was Kevin Bass. No real reason other than one of the very first games I can remember going to in the Astrodome, he hit 2 homeruns in the same game. I used to love the huge target they would put on the screen up in the outfield for Glen Davis, along with the Superman theme song that they would play.
Svpernaut
10-11-2005, 03:14 AM
Really? Glenn Davis? He had to bat his way out of so many 0-2 counts, I suspect the guy was BORN with two strikes. Personally, I loved Jose and Craig Reynolds (who, if you ever talk to him, is a helluva nice guy with some hilarious stories to tell). Cruz is one of the great clutch hitters in the history of this club, and seemed able to just slap one over the shortstop whenever we needed it.
Oh yeah, Astros in 6, but they're all tight games.
Yeah, I loved Glenn Davis (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/alltime/playercard?playerId=3237). My most vivid memories of him were launching homeruns out of Wrigley Field on a regular basis... not sure why that sticks out most, just does.
solid
10-11-2005, 08:26 AM
Yeah we got that on pg.2...but it's okay we can never bash Sandberg enough for his stupidity.
That absolutely amazes me that he would pick the Cards starting pitchers over the Astros "Hall of Fame" lineup. That is utterly ridiculous.
astroagg
10-11-2005, 11:09 AM
That absolutely amazes me that he would pick the Cards starting pitchers over the Astros "Hall of Fame" lineup. That is utterly ridiculous.
I wondered why Sandberg has it in for the Astros, and I finally realized what it is: he's jealous of Biggio getting a shot at a ring.
Anyone else agree?
RocketMan Tex
10-11-2005, 11:18 AM
I wondered why Sandberg has it in for the Astros, and I finally realized what it is: he's jealous of Biggio getting a shot at a ring.
Anyone else agree?
Agreed 101%
I wonder where Sandberg will hide the day Craig Biggio gets inducted into the Hall of Fame?
Svpernaut
10-11-2005, 11:33 AM
Agreed 101%
I wonder where Sandberg will hide the day Craig Biggio gets inducted into the Hall of Fame?
He's jealous that Biggio is easily the best second baseman of the modern era. At the end of their careers, if you put Roberto Alomar, Ryne Sandberg, Jeff Kent and Craig Biggio on a list and handed it to all of the GMs, Managers and Owners in the league and said "choose one to go back in time and have for their entire career" Biggio would win by a LANDSLIDE!
PhiSlammaJamma
10-11-2005, 11:44 AM
The Thing is, if Carpenter pitches three games as he is slated to do, then the Cardinals probably do have the advantage in the pitching category. He was the Cy Young. That's three games they are supposed to win. Even if by a small margin... They are supposed to win those three games.
The Astros are no doubt the underdog here. They are overmatched statistically. It's going to take a herculean effort to overcome the cardinals.
Sandberg was something special to watch in his prime. A hall of famer for sure. (Steve Sax was awesome too, but no longevity at all.) At any rate, as awesome as Sandberg was, Bidge's career stands head and shoulders over Sandberg's, and Sandberg is coming off like a whiny has-been. Sad.
Groogrux
10-11-2005, 11:54 AM
The Thing is, if Carpenter pitches three games as he is slated to do, then the Cardinals probably do have the advantage in the pitching category. He was the Cy Young. That's three games they are supposed to win. Even if by a small margin... They are supposed to win those three games.
Not necessarily true. For one thing, Carpenter hasn't won the Cy Young yet. Not to mention, he hasn't maintained his earlier dominance while Andy has been the best pitcher in the NL over the last two months. At this time, I'd take Pettitte (a post-season phenom) over Carpenter.
MR. MEOWGI
10-11-2005, 11:57 AM
Okay, well I tried to get this thing (mojo) going in the other thread...
Here it is again...
http://users4.ev1.net/~yarrum/gostros.gif
Hey, I made that last year and forgot about it. I think I made some more and will try to find them. If I cant find them I will try to make some good ones.
Ryne Sandberg - He and Andre Dawson were my baseball heroes growing up.
But he sounds like a hater right now.
Maybe he is still messed up in the head after his wife had an orgy with all of MLB.
MadMax
10-11-2005, 12:04 PM
Not necessarily true. For one thing, Carpenter hasn't won the Cy Young yet. Not to mention, he hasn't maintained his earlier dominance while Andy has been the best pitcher in the NL over the last two months. At this time, I'd take Pettitte (a post-season phenom) over Carpenter.
a post-season phenom whose ERA was almost a half a run better than Carpenter's for the season, as well.
arkoe
10-11-2005, 01:25 PM
I'm ready for this game to start now.
Roxfan73
10-11-2005, 01:42 PM
The Thing is, if Carpenter pitches three games as he is slated to do, then the Cardinals probably do have the advantage in the pitching category. He was the Cy Young. That's three games they are supposed to win. Even if by a small margin... They are supposed to win those three games.
He's gonna pitch 2 of the games on 3 days rest????!!!! I like our chances in that case.
Svpernaut
10-11-2005, 01:58 PM
The Thing is, if Carpenter pitches three games as he is slated to do, then the Cardinals probably do have the advantage in the pitching category. He was the Cy Young. That's three games they are supposed to win. Even if by a small margin... They are supposed to win those three games.
The Astros are no doubt the underdog here. They are overmatched statistically. It's going to take a herculean effort to overcome the cardinals.
Carpenter had a pretty bad September, and he isn't 100%. I'll take Pettitte over him ANY day of the week. Pettitte wins playoff games in his sleep! Bring on Carpenter on 3 days rest!!!
Buck Turgidson
10-11-2005, 02:24 PM
He's gonna pitch 2 of the games on 3 days rest????!!!! I like our chances in that case.
Unless I've missed something, LaRussa hasn't announced, or even speculated on, his starters past Carpenter in Game 1.
All we do know is Pettitte, Oswalt & Clemens are scheduled to pitch 6 of the possible 7 games, with Backe going at home in Game 4, none on short rest. This beats the hell out of how the rotation stacked up last year, with Munro & Backe starting 2 games each in the LCS.
MadMax
10-11-2005, 02:26 PM
Unless I've missed something, LaRussa hasn't announced, or even speculated on, his starters past Carpenter in Game 1.
All we do know is Pettitte, Oswalt & Clemens are scheduled to pitch 6 of the possible 7 games, with Backe going at home in Game 4, none on short rest. This beats the hell out of how the rotation stacked up last year, with Munro & Backe starting 2 games each in the LCS.
where are you, by the way???? out of town???
Roxfan73
10-11-2005, 02:32 PM
Unless I've missed something, LaRussa hasn't announced, or even speculated on, his starters past Carpenter in Game 1.
All we do know is Pettitte, Oswalt & Clemens are scheduled to pitch 6 of the possible 7 games, with Backe going at home in Game 4, none on short rest. This beats the hell out of how the rotation stacked up last year, with Munro & Backe starting 2 games each in the LCS.
From Yahoo Sports:
Wed, Oct 12 8:05 pm EDT A. Pettitte vs. C. Carpenter
Thu, Oct 13 8:05 pm EDT R. Oswalt vs. M. Mulder
Sat, Oct 15 4:05 pm EDT M. Morris vs. R. Clemens
Sun, Oct 16 4:05 pm EDT C. Carpenter vs. B. Backe
Mon, Oct 17 8:05 pm EDT M. Mulder vs. A. Pettitte
Wed, Oct 19 4:05 pm EDT R. Oswalt vs. M. Morris
Thu, Oct 20 8:05 pm EDT R. Clemens vs. C. Carpenter
I'll take that with a grain of salt, since it's not coming straight from the genius's mouth. However, LaRussa has been known to "ride his stud" in the postseason. See: Stewart, Dave.
MadMax
10-11-2005, 02:36 PM
From Yahoo Sports:
Wed, Oct 12 8:05 pm EDT A. Pettitte vs. C. Carpenter
Thu, Oct 13 8:05 pm EDT R. Oswalt vs. M. Mulder
Sat, Oct 15 4:05 pm EDT M. Morris vs. R. Clemens
Sun, Oct 16 4:05 pm EDT C. Carpenter vs. B. Backe
Mon, Oct 17 8:05 pm EDT M. Mulder vs. A. Pettitte
Wed, Oct 19 4:05 pm EDT R. Oswalt vs. M. Morris
Thu, Oct 20 8:05 pm EDT R. Clemens vs. C. Carpenter
I'll take that with a grain of salt, since it's not coming straight from the genius's mouth. However, LaRussa has been known to "ride his stud" in the postseason. See: Stewart, Dave.
freaking bring it!!! i love it!!!!
astroagg
10-11-2005, 02:38 PM
I think that Dave Stewart could claim that he was the real owner of the wallet from "Pulp Fiction".
Rule0001
10-11-2005, 02:38 PM
hmm Carpenter going 3 times eh?
looks like we'll show him what the astros are all ABOOT.
BRING IT! STROS in 6!
desihooper
10-11-2005, 02:44 PM
Did you know: Biggio and Bagwell, previously known for postseason futility, are hitting a combined .292 with four homers and 15 RBI in Houston's 16 playoff games the last two years.
Astros in 7... Revenge is a dish best served cold (just don't wear those alternate road jerseys anymore, we lost Game 7 against the Cards last year and Game 2 against the Braves this year wearing those!!!).
The Real Shady
10-11-2005, 02:51 PM
Here is a little article about pitchers going on 3-days rest that I found interesting.
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/main/article/danwerr_2003-10-27_0
Digging in the AstroDirt: October 27, 2003
by Dan Werr
The World Series is over, the Florida Marlins triumphant. Again. And they owe much of the credit for their Game 6 victory to pitcher Josh Beckett, who not only pitched a complete game shutout, but did it with just . . .
Three Days' Rest
. . . Three days' rest. It's like having twenty minutes to change planes at the airport. Like swimming a half hour after eating. It turns good pitchers into crying, frightened children, at the mercy of cold-blooded hitting monsters. I once saw a kids' tee-ball game where the batting tee was working on three days' rest. Within moments, horrified spectators fled screaming from the spectacle of unremitting offense. When crews arrived the next day to bring order to the site, they found deeply rutted basepaths from the sheer number of baserunners. They found half-inning scores so large that all the parentheses in the world couldn't cram them into a line score. They found the fielders cowering behind the equipment shed, gloves thrown away--as peace offerings? Indications of surrender? And they found the tee, broken, misused, destroyed, worthless; they found it lying on top of home plate, shattered, in piles of its own plastic dust--they found pieces as far away as second base. Second base! All for working on three days' rest.
Isn't that right? Isn't short rest a harbinger of pitching mayhem, a losing proposition, an open invitation to disaster? Well, to find out for sure, we need to study the issue a little further. The best way to do this is to observe two groups of pitchers. One group will pitch on three days' rest, and the other group will pitch while they are blindfolded, hogtied, and being attacked by the evil flying monkey creatures from "The Wizard of Oz." And as I demonically cackle, "Fly, my pretties, fly!", I then carefully observe whether these two groups of pitchers have similar results, which would prove conclusively that pitchers pitching on three days' rest might as well be tied up and assaulted by fictional airborne simian monsters such as Don Zimmer or Bill Seitz.
However, this methodology is prohibitively expensive. So instead, I have looked at all the pitchers who have thrown in the postseason on three days' rest since 1995, when the current playoff format started. Specifically, I have taken some specific steps that I believe help interpret the data in the best way possible.
I looked at pitchers who pitched in the postseason or one-game playoffs, and for every pitcher who pitched on three days' rest, I noted how they did in that start and how they did in the prior start. This is a useful comparison to make because it guarantees that we are control for pitcher quality and era--specifically, if we aggregate the data, we know that each start by a pitcher on three days' rest is matched in the control group by a start by that same pitcher in the same year on full rest, almost always against the same offense. No starts were included on three days' rest if the prior start had also been on three days' rest, but this appears to have only happened once, with Curt Schilling in the 2001 World Series. Relief appearances were ignored, as were starts on two days' rest.
There are several ways to look at this data. Aggregate ERA is one, but that can be heavily affected by a few very bad starts. Aggregate peripherals are another, but those are hard to transform into a clear idea of performance. The best way, in my opinion, is to look at game scores, and not just the average game score, but the distribution of game scores, because the most important information is how often pitchers do well and how often they do poorly.
To calculate a pitcher's game score, begin with fifty points. Add two points for each inning completed after the fourth, one point for each out recorded, and one point for each strikeout. Subtract four points for each earned run, two points for each unearned run, two points per hit, and one point for each walk. The result is the game score. A game score of 50 is considered average, 100 would be phenomenal, and zero would be abysmal. A game score of 70 is very good and 30 is pretty bad. Game scores are not perfect, but they are a handy way to rate individual starts, and there won't be a case where a particularly bad start has a good game score.
I found 53 pitchers who worked on three days' rest in the playoffs from 1995 to 2003. Their aggregate ERA in the prior start (on full rest) was 3.84. Their aggregate ERA in the start on three days' rest was 4.71. That doesn't look very good. The average game score of full rest was 54.08; on short rest it was 49.04. That difference doesn't seem as significant. But it's the distribution of game scores that really counts. Of 53 starts, pitchers on full rest had a game score of 50 or higher 31 times, and lower than 50 22 times. On short rest, pitchers had game scores of 50 or higher 30 times, lower 23 times. Here's the full distribution of game scores:
Game Score Full Rest Short Rest
100+ 0 0
90-99 1 0
80-89 2 2
70-79 10 6
60-69 10 8
50-59 8 14
40-49 10 8
30-39 7 4
20-29 4 5
10-19 1 5
0-9 0 1
Less than 0 0 0
Pitchers on short rest appear a little less likely to be great, a little more likely to be average, and more likely to be terrible. However, the difference does not appear to be very large. The number of good starts made on short rest is very close to the number made on full rest (31 starts (58%) 50 or higher on full rest, 30 (57%) on short rest; 41 starts (77%) 40 or higher on full rest, 38 (72%) on short rest).
Interestingly, pitchers on three days' rest had one stretch of terror from 1999-2000. During that time, eight pitchers started on three days' rest, and none lasted longer than five innings or allowed fewer than four earned runs. Three allowed at least seven runs, and three lasted one inning or less. Outside of the two-year stretch of three-day terror, pitchers on full rest had an aggregate ERA of 4.00; pitchers on three days' rest had an aggregate ERA of 3.51. The average game scores were effectively identical. However, there were 25 above average game scores on full rest and 30 on three days' rest. There's no reason to ignore those bad performances, but this shows how much a small number of bad starts can skew the aggregate numbers.
All in all, it's probably not a terrible gamble to start a pitcher on three days' rest. The scary numbers that indicate otherwise are largely the product of a few spectacularly bad starts, and frequently go back just far enough to include the atrocious stretch that isn't typical of the results before or since. Each case can be evaluated on its own, of course, and performance does appear to suffer a little on shorter rest, but I see nothing in this data to indicate that the difference is at all large.
Buck Turgidson
10-11-2005, 02:59 PM
I'll take that with a grain of salt, since it's not coming straight from the genius's mouth. However, LaRussa has been known to "ride his stud" in the postseason. See: Stewart, Dave.
Exactly, yahoo's guessing, but it wouldn't surprise me given the success Carp's had against the Stros. Then again, trying to guess what TLR will do is a pretty futile exercise. If Mulder can't go in Game 2, Marquis, Suppan or Morris will. Who knows how it'll shake out?
TLR's giving a press interview right now, damn espnnews cut away after about 3 questions to show more of the same highlights they've been showing all night & day. I'm in the middle of nowhere on a dialup connection, so I can't, but someone could probably listen to the whole thing on mlb.com in a little bit. I'd imagine LaRussa talked about it at some point.
Some info on Mulder & the rotation here: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/E914A8BF52DA714286257097001A6141?OpenDocument
and here: http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051010&content_id=1245399&vkey=news_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl
Nothing official on mlb.com yet.
Buck Turgidson
10-11-2005, 03:08 PM
where are you, by the way???? out of town???
Yeah, been up in the Hill Country for the past few months.
MadMax
10-11-2005, 03:09 PM
Yeah, been up in the Hill Country for the past few months.
sounds good. hope you're not missing your astros! :) maybe we can all hook up to watch a game if you get back in town.
Svpernaut
10-11-2005, 03:32 PM
From Yahoo Sports:
Wed, Oct 12 8:05 pm EDT A. Pettitte vs. C. Carpenter
Thu, Oct 13 8:05 pm EDT R. Oswalt vs. M. Mulder
Sat, Oct 15 4:05 pm EDT M. Morris vs. R. Clemens
Sun, Oct 16 4:05 pm EDT C. Carpenter vs. B. Backe
Mon, Oct 17 8:05 pm EDT M. Mulder vs. A. Pettitte
Wed, Oct 19 4:05 pm EDT R. Oswalt vs. M. Morris
Thu, Oct 20 8:05 pm EDT R. Clemens vs. C. Carpenter
I'll take that with a grain of salt, since it's not coming straight from the genius's mouth. However, LaRussa has been known to "ride his stud" in the postseason. See: Stewart, Dave.
All of our pitchers pitching on full rest the entire series, gotta love it!!!
Roxfan73
10-11-2005, 04:04 PM
I'm starting to think that their bullpen is going to be the key. They are without Al Reyes (injured/2.15 era - and their best reliever), Kiko Calero (traded to A's/He of the great slider), and Steve Kline (lost to Free Agency/LH Specialist). Julian Tavarez has been hit by the Stros all season (6.00 era). Ray King has not been himself. Finally, we have gotten to Isringhausen twice this season.
If we can get to their bullpen, I think we have a helluva chance.
RocketJedi
10-11-2005, 05:02 PM
King won't be there Wednesday. I believe his father passed away. He's had a down year because his father was battling cancer.
JBIIRockets
10-11-2005, 06:38 PM
Astros in 6. I was really going to pick the Cards, but man, this team has a better bullpen than last year and better starting rotation than last year, and we still took the cards to 7 games last year.
Our offense may be worse, but at the end of the day, the bats are still as opportunistic as last years team.
Maybe this Astros team will be like the 88 Dodgers. Not many big offensive names, but they got the job done.
Roxfan73
10-11-2005, 06:46 PM
Maybe this Astros team will be like the 88 Dodgers. Not many big offensive names, but they got the job done.
...and beat a LaRussa managed team to boot!
ruddy
10-11-2005, 09:45 PM
Go Houston!!!
The Cat
10-11-2005, 09:52 PM
The Thing is, if Carpenter pitches three games as he is slated to do, then the Cardinals probably do have the advantage in the pitching category. He was the Cy Young. That's three games they are supposed to win. Even if by a small margin... They are supposed to win those three games.
The Astros are no doubt the underdog here. They are overmatched statistically. It's going to take a herculean effort to overcome the cardinals.
Pettitte and Clemens were both better than Carpenter in the regular season and Oswalt was very close. Just because a group of writers decides he's the best pitcher doesn't actually make it the case.
Harrisment
10-11-2005, 10:22 PM
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Harrisment
10-11-2005, 10:22 PM
I just read on the Chron's site that Tim McClelland is the head of the umpire crew for this series and will be behind the plate tomorrow. Isn't that the guy that Roger got into it with last week for having the extremely tight strike zone? And the same guy that had screwed us the night before on a bad call at 1st base?
ruddy
10-11-2005, 10:32 PM
Pettitte and Clemens were both better than Carpenter in the regular season and Oswalt was very close. Just because a group of writers decides he's the best pitcher doesn't actually make it the case.
EXACTLY!
Stack24
10-11-2005, 11:17 PM
I just read on the Chron's site that Tim McClelland is the head of the umpire crew for this series and will be behind the plate tomorrow. Isn't that the guy that Roger got into it with last week for having the extremely tight strike zone? And the same guy that had screwed us the night before on a bad call at 1st base?
Based on the pictures that I got off google. That is not the ump. I thought it was an african american umpire in that series that really had a tight zone and the call at first.
DaDakota
10-11-2005, 11:26 PM
Based on the pictures that I got off google. That is not the ump. I thought it was an african american umpire in that series that really had a tight zone and the call at first.
Too many Afrrican American umps....right AB?
:)
Based on the pictures that I got off google. That is not the ump. I thought it was an african american umpire in that series that really had a tight zone and the call at first.
Exactly... that was CB Bucknor, who is considered by many (players and coaches) to be the WORST umpire out there.
McClelland is pretty good... although his most memorable moment is throwing out George Brett in the pine-tar incident.
Miguel
10-12-2005, 12:06 AM
Exactly... that was CB Bucknor, who is considered by many (players and coaches) to be the WORST umpire out there.
McClelland is pretty good... although his most memorable moment is throwing out George Brett in the pine-tar incident.
McClelland IIRC is the guy that takes about 5 minutes to make his "STRIIIIIIIKE" call. It can get annoying, but I think if it's who I think he is, is a pretty good ump, although umps always suck regardless :)
Texas Stoke
10-12-2005, 12:25 AM
I just read on the Chron's site that Tim McClelland is the head of the umpire crew for this series and will be behind the plate tomorrow. Isn't that the guy that Roger got into it with last week for having the extremely tight strike zone? And the same guy that had screwed us the night before on a bad call at 1st base?
One of the umps in the crew working the series is from st. louis.. they better watch that fella
McClelland IIRC is the guy that takes about 5 minutes to make his "STRIIIIIIIKE" call. It can get annoying, but I think if it's who I think he is, is a pretty good ump, although umps always suck regardless :)
Yes... he has a delayed stirke call (which serves its purpose... he has the most consistent zone in the league).
RocketFire
10-12-2005, 12:51 AM
AStros in 5, yup in 5.
Harrisment
10-12-2005, 08:36 AM
Exactly... that was CB Bucknor, who is considered by many (players and coaches) to be the WORST umpire out there.
You're right, whew.
Howyalikemenow
10-12-2005, 08:50 AM
Cardinals vs. Astros lineup - positions.
Found this poll on mlb.com:
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/fantasy/player_challenge/pc_game_mlb_42.html?m=a
Though I don't think Chris Burke is starting, 610 this morning said it was going to be Lamb.
Great matchup. Edge goes to Astros. :D
Svpernaut
10-12-2005, 09:39 AM
Bring on the bastards err red birds.
rrj_gamz
10-12-2005, 10:10 AM
I'm so pumped about tonights game...I'll be watching it from Home as I need to do some things around the house...
Cuck the Fards...
Uprising
10-12-2005, 10:46 AM
WHOO HOOO! It's Wednesday! :cool:
Frodo
10-12-2005, 11:15 AM
Can't wait for the game to start...
Astros: 8
Cards: 6
Cardinals vs. Astros lineup - positions.
Found this poll on mlb.com:
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/fantasy/player_challenge/pc_game_mlb_42.html?m=a
Though I don't think Chris Burke is starting, 610 this morning said it was going to be Lamb.
Great matchup. Edge goes to Astros. :D
Chris Burke will likely get the start in the games we face Mulder... as early as game 2 (which is good, since I want him to get into a game soon after his HR... his confidence has to be sky-high).
Chance
10-12-2005, 12:13 PM
Tomorrow Night my band (Apollo XVIII) will be performing on the Fox 26 pre-game show. I hope you guys watch. It's at 6:30.
Chance
Sonny
10-12-2005, 12:47 PM
So we are over at Niko Nikos today having lunch and on the way back I see a dude in a Cardinals jersey - I almost flip out and want to run the guy over or honk at him or something.
guess I scared my coworkers a little bit.... ;)
GO ASTROS!!!
Svpernaut
10-12-2005, 02:03 PM
Tomorrow Night my band (Apollo XVIII) will be performing on the Fox 26 pre-game show. I hope you guys watch. It's at 6:30.
Chance
I'll set the DVR my friend! Congrats on the GIG!!!
Chance
10-12-2005, 03:15 PM
I'll set the DVR my friend! Congrats on the GIG!!!
thanks man! should be interesting.
The Real Shady
10-12-2005, 05:27 PM
T minus 1 hour and 33 minutes till game time.
Let's get it on!
PhiSlammaJamma
10-12-2005, 05:29 PM
tick tock, tick tock.
Kamel
10-12-2005, 05:34 PM
What game will fox televise on basic tv for those on the east coast- NY?
Is it possible to get the radio broadcast online?
Uprising
10-12-2005, 05:53 PM
What game will fox televise on basic tv for those on the east coast- NY?
Most likely the AL game.
Almost game time guys! I can't wait!
Miguel
10-12-2005, 06:08 PM
Is it wrong that I cleared out enough space to record 10 hours worth of baseball tonight?
I just want to make sure that I can capture the Astros game and be home in time incase it goes to extras.
tim562
10-12-2005, 06:58 PM
ok, i'm excited!!! GO STROS :D
tim562
10-12-2005, 06:59 PM
Is it wrong that I cleared out enough space to record 10 hours worth of baseball tonight?
I just want to make sure that I can capture the Astros game and be home in time incase it goes to extras.
Nah, its cool!!! Better be safe than sorry!!
I'm nervous...but GO STROS!
BMoney
10-12-2005, 07:12 PM
Just checking in to say that the Astros have at least one fan in South Auckland, New Zealand today.
I want LaRussa to be in the fetal position crying himself to sleep when he thinks about this series.
Astros in six!!!!
Roxfan73
10-12-2005, 07:13 PM
Is it possible to get the radio broadcast online?
http://www.ktrh.com/audio.html
I'm nervous...but GO STROS!
Strangely, I'm not... I'm really looking forward to enjoying the game this time around, and this year I really feel that the Astros deserve to be there.
Last year was a little flukeish... the 36-10 finish, having Beltran hit everything, trying to win with only TWO legit starters... I was along for the ride, and sort of happy to be there.
This year, despite the departure of a few big hitters, I EXPECT this team to show up... play hard... and find a way to win.
RocketJedi
10-12-2005, 07:24 PM
Hey it looks like FOX finally realized they had the wrong Stros helmet on their set. The Stros only changed their unis back in 2000!
I feel the same way as you,but I'm just a nervous person :p
I feel the same way as you,but I'm just a nervous person :p
Me too! Which is why I find it strange that I am not nervous... hell, I used to get nervous for Oilers/Rockets pre-season games. Now, I don't even know when they're being played ;) .
HayesStreet
10-12-2005, 07:29 PM
C'MON STROS! I figure the big three can pitch six games, we only need four to go to the series! Shoe in!
arkoe
10-12-2005, 07:29 PM
Strangely, I'm not... I'm really looking forward to enjoying the game this time around, and this year I really feel that the Astros deserve to be there.
Last year was a little flukeish... the 36-10 finish, having Beltran hit everything, trying to win with only TWO legit starters... I was along for the ride, and sort of happy to be there.
This year, despite the departure of a few big hitters, I EXPECT this team to show up... play hard... and find a way to win.
I feel the same way. I'm strangely not nervous at all. I have faith that at some point in the game, the bats will come around.
The Ming Dynasty
10-12-2005, 07:30 PM
The Van Halen song "Dreams" that Fox was playing to introduce the Astros is the best song ever written. :D
Edmonds doesn't rob a hit from us... I hope he's not just "getting it out of his system."
JunkyardDwg
10-12-2005, 07:36 PM
A good omen perhaps? A catch Edmond doesn't make that he would normally against us. Nothing came of it, but still....
Texas Stoke
10-12-2005, 07:37 PM
A good omen perhaps? A catch Edmond doesn't make that he would normally against us. Nothing came of it, but still....
could be...thats the same ball Ausmus hit last year that he caught
AggieRocket
10-12-2005, 07:38 PM
i hold my breath every time edmonds bats
HayesStreet
10-12-2005, 07:40 PM
i hold my breath every time edmonds bats
The only thing that keeps me from holding my breath the whole game is the dying part. :)
JeeberD
10-12-2005, 07:44 PM
Damn, that looked gone...
God everytime Poojuls makes contact I think its gone :(
halfbreed
10-12-2005, 07:45 PM
i hold my breath every time edmonds bats
don't we all...
RocketJedi
10-12-2005, 07:46 PM
Whew, on that Pujols ball.
JeeberD
10-12-2005, 07:47 PM
Dammit! :mad:
JunkyardDwg
10-12-2005, 07:47 PM
Geez...ure kidding me.
And a freakin curtain call to boot.
God damn.....friggin Reggie Sanders :mad:
Xerobull
10-12-2005, 07:48 PM
Crap. Only first inning but...crap.
Horrible pitch location by Pettite... Ausmus wanted that ball way inside.
With the way Walker looks against Pettite... look for Andy to pitch around Sanders for the rest of tonight.
bigtexxx
10-12-2005, 07:49 PM
Pujols won't make that mistake twice. Andy needs to get his act together.
Geez...ure kidding me.
And a freakin curtain call to boot.
Yea the early curtain calls are a little bit too much.
Rule0001
10-12-2005, 07:50 PM
guess it wouldn't be a game without andy giving up a longball
Xerobull
10-12-2005, 07:51 PM
Yea the early curtain calls are a little bit too much.
Agreed- hopefully it will snap Petite out of it.
I know Andy has so much confidence in his pinpoint control this year... but he also needs to realize that guys like Sanders will offer at terrible pitches (which used to be Pettite's MO, before he realized that pinpoint control = sub 3.00 ERA).
why does reggie sanders make a curtain call EVERY SINGLE homerun he hits?
Bobblehead
10-12-2005, 07:53 PM
That was way to many pitches for Andy in the first inning. I wonder if the 6 days off was too much. He doesn't seem sharp/
why does reggie sanders make a curtain call EVERY SINGLE homerun he hits?
That's St. Louis, not Reggie. The crowd asks for a curtain call... its not the player's call... and St. Louis fans will ask for one for EVERY HR.
Make him work Lane...god.
HayesStreet
10-12-2005, 07:55 PM
no doubt. they've got to make him work...
Oski2005
10-12-2005, 07:55 PM
Seriously, somebody needs to tell Lane and Ensberg to take the first pitch.
desihooper
10-12-2005, 07:55 PM
Can we just not take any pitches?!? 9 pitch inning...great!
Aceshigh7
10-12-2005, 07:56 PM
I just can't stand to look at Carpenter's face. Dude looks inbred to me.
RocketManJosh
10-12-2005, 07:57 PM
UGGGGGLLY ... Better get this turned around and QUICK!
Bobblehead
10-12-2005, 07:58 PM
Carpenter looks good enough to go 9 shutout innings tonight. Could be a long game 1!!!!
Carpenter looks good enough to go 9 shutout innings tonight. Could be a long game 1!!!!
Actually, that would make it a short game.
That's St. Louis, not Reggie. The crowd asks for a curtain call... its not the player's call... and St. Louis fans will ask for one for EVERY HR.
yeah but he seems to be the only one that does it all the time unless i'm jyst not paying attention to everyone else.
reggietodd
10-12-2005, 08:01 PM
Cardinals own us. :mad:
DarkHorse
10-12-2005, 08:02 PM
How bout a chat in #clutchfans
#clutchfans.net is for the Rockets game only
RocketManJosh
10-12-2005, 08:02 PM
Cardinals own us. :mad:
It's a little early for that ... c'mon no one loses a 7 game series in the first 2 innings of game 1.
Ok we just got owned on that squeeze play :(
Rule0001
10-12-2005, 08:04 PM
why the **** didn't ensberg just go up to home plate?
you know carpenter's gonna try the ****ing squeeze :mad:
BMoney
10-12-2005, 08:04 PM
The flu must be still giving him problems. We can't burn through our bullpen after going 18 on Sunday. Knuckle down, Andy!
Bobblehead
10-12-2005, 08:05 PM
Series over. We lost.. We're losers. We stink.
just kiddin!!!! :)
AggieRocket
10-12-2005, 08:06 PM
we got some work ahead of us. it can be done.
HayesStreet
10-12-2005, 08:07 PM
is there a difference between a squeeze and a suicide squeeze?
JunkyardDwg
10-12-2005, 08:07 PM
Well this game is in danger of being over before it even really begins.
AggieRocket
10-12-2005, 08:09 PM
is there a difference between a squeeze and a suicide squeeze?
i don't think so.
Xerobull
10-12-2005, 08:10 PM
Nice one Ausmus! Time to get something going!
Well this game is in danger of being over before it even really begins.
true it's not looking pretty but i thought the same thing when laroche hit his grand slam on sunday. we got a lot of innings left.
desihooper
10-12-2005, 08:12 PM
Could use a big hit here... heck, a big inning now that the lineup has turned over.
Walk Bidge,1st and 2nd...come on WILLY!
Walk Bidge,1st and 2nd...come on WILLY!
I'd actually take a sacrafice here... then watch them walk Berkman, and have Ensberg hit with the bases loaded.
JBIIRockets
10-12-2005, 08:14 PM
what is up with all these camera angles tonight? It's making me dizzy.
what is up with all these camera angles tonight? It's making me dizzy.
I was just about to post that... Busch Stadium's regular CF camera angle is not good enough for HD... so Fox has to create a new one (that looks even worse on regular TV).
Xerobull
10-12-2005, 08:16 PM
COME ON BIG BOY!
Willy walks again... the guy can't buy one in a regular season game, but he's freaking Jeff Bagwell in the post-season.
desihooper
10-12-2005, 08:17 PM
First pitch swinging....GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
HayesStreet
10-12-2005, 08:17 PM
aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh
Rule0001
10-12-2005, 08:17 PM
nice one lance :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
JunkyardDwg
10-12-2005, 08:17 PM
OMG! Now don't you just wish we could trade that grounder w/ Berkman's deep fly to center in the 1st. We'd have a tie game right now. Dammit!
well... we're getting closer, at least... :rolleyes:
JBIIRockets
10-12-2005, 08:19 PM
unfortunate about that double play but lance made good contact and that's all you can ask for....unless you want him to take some pitches
First pitch swinging....GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
To his defense, that ball was right there in his wheelhouse... middle in, at the knees.
The only difference... it was a hanging curveball instead of a 95mph heater... so in fact, Carpenter throwing a BAD pitch helps him out even more.
moligity
10-12-2005, 08:19 PM
maybe you take a pitch. I don't know, two straight walks. I know he's our big bat, and he hit it hard -- but damn, just take a pitch. Grrr...
AggieRocket
10-12-2005, 08:23 PM
Friggin Reggie Sanders up to bat...
HayesStreet
10-12-2005, 08:24 PM
niiiiice
DP please.
Ask for more things.
Rule0001
10-12-2005, 08:25 PM
i see free throws in your future
Ask for more things.
A hit from Ensberg please.
TMac640
10-12-2005, 08:26 PM
i'll make my request as well
astros stop blowing it against carpenter with men in scoring position please
desihooper
10-12-2005, 08:27 PM
Big picture... if you don't start taking pitches, Carpenter is going to go deep into the game today. The Cards bully is not as strong as in the past. We need to try and get into the pen.
I'm not saying he swung at a bad pitch. I just think he swung at a hanging off-speed pitch that he blistered into the ground, not something that he could elevate and drive.
Xerobull
10-12-2005, 08:27 PM
Nice work, Endsnerd!
JeeberD
10-12-2005, 08:28 PM
A hit from Ensberg please.
More! More!
Big picture... if you don't start taking pitches, Carpenter is going to go deep into the game today. The Cards bully is not as strong as in the past. We need to try and get into the pen.
I'm not saying he swung at a bad pitch. I just think he swung at a hanging off-speed pitch that he blistered into the ground, not something that he could elevate and drive.
True... but you can see that Carpenter doesn't throw many things out of the zone... except for when he already has 2 strikes on you (and you're not going to get many hits in many AB's when you have 2 strikes on you).
Taking pitches will be key tommorow against a wild Mulder... but tonight, early on, everything that they're swinging at are strikes.
Well that ended my streak :p
HayesStreet
10-12-2005, 08:29 PM
squeeze as an in your face
squeeze as an in your face
I don't even think Lane can bunt... now Adam, on the other hand...
desihooper
10-12-2005, 08:30 PM
I'm impressed that Lane drew that walk. Come on Adam... put the ball in play in the air.
Pitched around Lane to face Adam...adam please get the run home.
I'm impressed that Lane drew that walk. Come on Adam... put the ball in play in the air.
It was on-purpose... the Cards are daring Adam Everett and Brad Ausmus to beat them.
AggieRocket
10-12-2005, 08:31 PM
I'm impressed that Lane drew that walk. Come on Adam... put the ball in play in the air.
It was intentional.
DaDakota
10-12-2005, 08:32 PM
It may be time to sit Adam E, and play Viz.
DD
I can't believe the AL game is moving faster than the NL game... that's never happened before.
HayesStreet
10-12-2005, 08:32 PM
I don't even think Lane can bunt... now Adam, on the other hand...
i don't understand how you can not be able to bunt...
keep fighting adam!!!
desihooper
10-12-2005, 08:34 PM
Crap....
DaDakota
10-12-2005, 08:34 PM
Everett IS FRICKEN AWFUL......
DD
bigtexxx
10-12-2005, 08:34 PM
I can't watch this crap.
Slide on the outside of the plate!
DaDakota
10-12-2005, 08:35 PM
The bottom 3 in our lineup is like facing 3 pitchers.
Gonna be tough if we don't score....DUH !
Seriously....how long do you go with Everett? I mean come on...the guy is horrid...I would bat Backe over Everett.....
DD
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