Titans @ Texans

[reggietodd]

Somehow we were favored in Vegas to win this game. Its halftime, we are only down four.

[adw]

That was some sad @ss D.

17-9 Titans.

[rikesh316]

The Texans should fire Capers if they lose to the Titans. That is the youngest team in the league. Texans offesne is horrible once again.

[rikesh316]

Walter Payton's son Jarrett just scored in his first ever NFL game.

[bigtexxx]

Faggins is getting OWNT by Drew Bennett.

[DaDakota]

If Jeff Fisher was coaching the Texans they would be 3-1, instead of 0-4.

DD

[bigtexxx]

This offense is completely impotent.

I hear a lot of boo's in the stadium.

[adw]

God it really hurts to be a Texans fan this year,its so depressing after our improvemnet last year.

[CriscoKidd]

I guess Vegas hasn't watched very many Texan games.

[rikesh316]

Andre Johnson left the game with a calf injury. Pendry is worst than Palmer. At least with Palmer they scored a touchdown versus the the best defense in the league last year. Pendry can't even score a touchdown versus one of the worst defenses in the league.

[slickvik69]

Is it safe to say the Texans are the worst team in the NFL?

[Joshfast]

This offense is completely impotent.

I hear a lot of boo's in the stadium.

Deservedly so. This team is really depressing to watch.

[CriscoKidd]

Andre Johnson left the game with a calf injury. Pendry is worst than Palmer. At least with Palmer they scored a touchdown versus the the best defense in the league last year. Pendry can't even score a touchdown versus one of the worst defenses in the league.


They'd also have a td if Chester Pitts hadn't suited up today.

[slickvik69]

Wow Pacman Jones almost broke it all the way

[pradaxpimp]

If you are rooting against the Texans like I am, the season has been freakin fantastic.

On a serious note, we need to implode this team. Carr has been damaged mentally due to all the hits. Not really all his fault.

Dom Capers pisses me off with his "We'll get them next time atitude" and all the stupid personnel decisions he has approved. Throw in Casserly with those Chester Pitts contracts.

The whole offensive line should be traded and shot.

But seriously, this team is fun to watch when u root against them.

[rikesh316]

I agree with a pradaxpimp. I am rooting also for them to lose for 2 reasons. So they fire the entire coaching staff and Charley. He is gave Chester a 9 million dollar bonus. That higher than some of the best guards in the league like Marco Rivera and Mike Wahle. He is no where in that class. The other reason I want them to lose is so they get a high draft pick. I want the the best tackle or the best wide receiver. I really want Vince Young but you know they won't get rid of Carr.

[gbritton]

we need to fire our GM, fire our coaches, trade carr for a first round pick, draft leinhart or VY, draft some other wide reciever from the carr trade... then sign some offensive lineman in the offseason. this team sucks... a new coach could light a fire under this defense's ass... the talent is there... just not any decent coaching.

i could also see Vince young being drafted to houston over leinhart... mainly because houston is VY's hometown and a lot of people would love that... especially all the horn fans in houston. it would create for a larger market... and plus the organization needs something to sale to the people of houston after a terrible season.

[dwil8686]

What happened to the STICKY???

[reggietodd]

The O line was prett bad today but on the times Carr did have all day to throw, he was not accurate.

Changes are needed. I want to see Ragone. Sometimes change is good, look at Buffalo, benched Losman and put in Holcomb and won.

[Svpernaut]

What happened to the STICKY???

Castor is slacking again.

[AggieRocket]

we need to fire our GM, fire our coaches, trade carr for a first round pick, draft leinhart or VY, draft some other wide reciever from the carr trade... then sign some offensive lineman in the offseason. this team sucks... a new coach could light a fire under this defense's ass... the talent is there... just not any decent coaching.

i could also see Vince young being drafted to houston over leinhart... mainly because houston is VY's hometown and a lot of people would love that... especially all the horn fans in houston. it would create for a larger market... and plus the organization needs something to sale to the people of houston after a terrible season.

First of all, no one would give the Texans a 1st rounder for Carr. Secondly, Vince Young isn't the answer. I would go for Leinart before VY.

[Air Langhi]

First of all, no one would give the Texans a 1st rounder for Carr. Secondly, Vince Young isn't the answer. I would go for Leinart before VY.

Lets go for marcus vick

[JoeBarelyCares]

What happened to the STICKY???

The Texans don't deserve a sticky.

Casserly needs to be the first to go. We have horrible personnel. Even Lombardi couldn't win with this team.

There's always the chance the next adminstration will decide against paying Carr his $8 million bonus next summer, and start over.

[rocketfan83]

Hmm.

The next chance for a victory is against cleveland..

Seattle and Indy are automatic L's...

This is sad

[rikesh316]

Hmm.

The next chance for a victory is against cleveland..

Seattle and Indy are automatic L's...

This is sad


I agree but Cleveland is playing very well right now. See what a new head coach could do. Romeo has that team playing hard and his style.

[apostolic3]

Wow, you know the Texans have fallen pretty low when this thread only has 25 posts and it's 5:30 p.m. Sunday afternoon.

[rdsgonzo13]

First 0-16 team ever?!

[rikesh316]

Faggins is horrible. He makes Phillip look good.

[pradaxpimp]

First 0-16 team ever?!

we'd be guaranteed a first rounder that we might F up again

[oomp]

This offense is completely impotent.

I hear a lot of boo's in the stadium.

There was alot of booing.

http://www.fanfactory.org/downloads/texan/1.jpg

Titans Driving

http://www.fanfactory.org/downloads/texan/2.jpg

Finally some good news.

You send it of "Lets Go Astros" chant, the most excited the fans got all game. (http://s64.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3JDL9DOJAELQ63CXZBZ58XXVLN)

http://www.fanfactory.org/downloads/texan/3.jpg

The fans around me were yelling for Banks to go in.

http://www.fanfactory.org/downloads/texan/4.jpg

John Granato

[solid]

First round draft choice is a lock! This team is so awful they are hard to watch.

[wesnesked]

First round draft choice is a lock! This team is so awful they are hard to watch.

Every team gets a 1st round pick!

[PhiSlammaJamma]

Titans roar toward playoff fight. Texans need major help. Season is lookin bleak.

[nigma2000]

The Texans should get some points from the Astros on how to have the heart to win games.

I hope they would get rid of somebody after every loss from here on out. This week, David Carr...you are voted off the island.

Tune in next week and watch the Texans lose to the Seahawks. See who gets voted off, will it be Capers, Casserly, or will the whole offensive line go?

[Tdogg]

If things continue as they have thus far, then our last game of the season vs SAN-FRAN could be called... THE TOILET BOWL ;)

[mateo]

On the bright side, when I come into town for xmas, I dont see it being too hard to score free Texans tickets from some of my associates. Who knows, maybe we can beat AZ.

[SmeggySmeg]

has david carr slept with the wives of all his OL???

[Lil Francis]

I went to the game and man was that a waste of 3 hours. The best part was when they showed Berkman hit that 8th inning slam on the big screen. The fans were going nuts. I think the players are quitting on Dom Capers and if this team wins more than 5 games this season that would be a miracle. Time to start looking for a head coach and a qb that can read a defense.

[Dream34]

Smeggy,
That was a good one!!! :o

Glad to see that McNair to Bennett still works (at least against the Texans)!! ;)

Go Titans!!!

[Gummi Clutch]

severe lack of fans at the game.
Id say it was barely over 50% full.
It looked like an Arizona game.
I guess the honey moon is over.
I dont see the current coaching staff sticking around if this continues.
I would hope they would wait until the end of the season when we have a larger selection of canidates.
I didnt hear any boos where I was at.
But I left in the mid 3rd quarter right when they started getting blown out, and the Texans were lucky to atempt a field goal.

Seemed like they are trying to make Carr get rid of the ball quicker.
I feel sorry for him.
Carr, Johnson, Robinson, Davis, all have potential to be a playmaker,
but there are so many gaping needs on this team.
Its a mess :(

At least we get to play Cleveland, SF, and Arizona,
But Arizona and Cleveland are doing surprisingly well right now.

[SwoLy-D]

Ya'll... this is LOSER talk to me. United we stand. Let's boo together. :(

Seriously, that dismal attempt of the O-line to block the TITAN ends was just horrible [insert Bill Waltonism here].

Sorry, Dom, but you gotta go. :(

David, call your own plays, please.

[Rivaldo2181]

I like the Texans as I live in Houston except for 2 times a year...Go Titans!

[A-Train]

Damn, the traffic to Astroworld was pretty bad with that pitiful crowd...It's good that the Texans do suck ass this year, or I might have never gotten to Astroworld today...

[RocketForever]

I hope they would get rid of somebody after every loss from here on out. This week, David Carr...you are voted off the island

Right, it didn't matter that he had a Dlineman in his face every play? :rolleyes:

[nigma2000]

Right, it didn't matter that he had a Dlineman in his face every play? :rolleyes:


You are right it does not matter...it does not matter because David Carr is damaged goods now. He may never recover and his play and decision making is suffering because of it.

For his own life's sake at least until there are changes to this God awfull O-line, it might be better if he is replaced in the lineup. There is no reason anymore in this season for him to be out there getting killed.

[SmeggySmeg]

Smeggy,
That was a good one!!! :o


wasn't being mean, just can't believe the lack of protection the guy has got pretty much the whole time he has been in the league

[The Real Shady]

You gotta like the quote from the only player on the Texans who looks like they are trying. Dunta Robinson.

"I actually feel sorry for our fans," Robinson said. "At a football game, the biggest thrill they get comes out of a baseball game. I mean, it's sad. Hell, no, I wasn't offended that they cheered (for the Astros). You look at what's going on with us, they're looking for something to cheer about. We're not giving it to them. We're playing like it doesn't matter."

[emjohn]

severe lack of fans at the game.
Id say it was barely over 50% full.??? Looked like 80% to me, at worst. Only the club section looked like it was missing a lot. Top and Bottom levels were full. Official attendance (http://sports-att.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=251009034) came in at 70K (I'd say a min of 60K were actually in their seats). Unless you're talking about the 4th quarter, of course.

But yeah, among the many downers you can have, this is one of the top: Your Season Is Over After 4 Games.

Evan

[sabirk]

Look at this article. What do you guys think of Bob McNair's attitude towards firing the coaching staff? Also, about 25,000 people didn't show for the game.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3389311

0-4 crying out loud
Capers' crew achieves dubious distinction of being the league's only winless team
By JOHN MCCLAIN
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle


While the Astros and their jubilant fans were dancing in the streets after a come-from-behind playoff victory over the Atlanta Braves, the Texans were doing the limbo to see how low they could go.

The Texans put their fourth consecutive stamp of disapproval on a winless season by losing 34-20 at Reliant Stadium to the Tennessee Titans, a team that entered the game with one victory.

Before the Texans could say, "Let's go, Astros," they officially became the worst team in the NFL.

Sunday's defeat, coupled with Green Bay's victory over New Orleans, left the Texans as the only team without a victory.

"We can't get much lower than that," quarterback David Carr said after being sacked seven times. "When you're going on your fourth year, it gets a little frustrating. Even if we're down, there's always something to attain. That being said, it gets tough, and it gets old."

Perhaps the Texans should call a cardiologist.

"Right now, we don't have heart," cornerback Dunta Robinson said after the Texans suffered their fifth consecutive defeat dating to last season. "That's me and everybody else."

As it stands today, the Texans have the No. 1 pick in the 2006 draft.

"We're not going to finish 0-16; I guarantee you that," center Steve McKinney said.

Although 70,430 fans purchased tickets, about 25,000 didn't show up. Those who came watched scoreboard updates on Game 4 of the Astros-Braves series and highlights on the gigantic screens.

Until the Astros began their comeback, it was so quiet at times that fans could almost hear offensive coordinator Joe Pendry calling the plays.

The fans booed the Texans' ineptness on both sides of the ball and chanted, "Let's go, Astros!" after the announcement of Lance Berkman's grand slam in the eighth inning.

"It didn't bother me that our fans were cheering for the Astros," Bob McNair said. "I'm an Astros fan, too. We have great fans, and we know they also support the Astros."

After Texans fans complained so loudly about the stifling heat during the Sept. 18 loss to Pittsburgh, the stadium roof was closed Sunday even though it was a gorgeous day outside at about 80 degrees.

And the Texans' record fell to 1-9 when the roof is closed.

"To tell you the truth, I've got more pressing issues than the roof," coach Dom Capers said.

Like morale?

"It's a challenge," Capers said, "but we don't have front-runners. Our guys are made of the right stuff."

But they're going about it the wrong way. When a team rushes for 161 yards and limits an opponent to 90, it's supposed to win.

On an afternoon when Tennessee coach Jeff Fisher got his 100th victory and quarterback Steve McNair surpassed 25,000 yards passing, the Texans pulled within 10-9 in the third quarter.

Unlike the Astros, the Texans plummeted in alarming fashion. McNair, who threw two touchdowns, scored on a one-yard run to make it 34-12 with 7:45 left in the game.

The Texans wasted a terrific performance by Domanick Davis, who rushed for 130 yards on 19 carries.

"It's frustrating; I'm not going to lie," Davis said. "I mean, it's not like we want to lose."

The defense didn't get a sack or a turnover. They have four sacks in four games, and they're the only team in the league that hasn't forced a turnover.

For the first time in franchise history, the Texans didn't convert a third down. They failed on 13 tries and had to settle for four field goals by Kris Brown.

Carr's three-yard pass to Corey Bradford late in the game gave the Texans their lone touchdown for the fourth consecutive game. The offense has gone nine games in a row without scoring more than two touchdowns.

"This is the toughest it's been because expectations were so high," McKinney said. "We were 1-3 our first year, but nobody expected anything from us. This, well, it's just so disappointing."

john.mcclain@chron.com


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Texans Summary

McNair: Firings won't help
Texans owner Bob McNair was asked if general manager Charley Casserly and coach Dom Capers should be worried about their jobs.

"I don't think that would improve anything," he said. "I'm committed to winning, and they are, too.

"I'm part of this team, and I take responsibility. I don't point fingers, and I don't want anyone else to point fingers, either."


Rare situation occurs
With four seconds left before halftime, punt returner Andrae Thurman and the Titans' special teams took advantage of the rarely used "fair catch kick rule."

After Thurman called for a fair catch on a punt, the Titans attempted a 58-yard-field goal. The kick fell short to end the half.

Few people were familiar with the rule, but Titans kicker Rob Bironas said he had practiced it in training camp.

"I actually heard about (the rule) last year by my special teams coach in Pittsburgh," Bironas said. "We practiced it a little bit in training camp this year, but never quite that deep."

The rule states that after a fair catch, the receiving team has the option to put the ball in play by a snap or a fair catch kick (essentially a field-goal attempt).

"All of the rules of a field goal apply, with the exception that there is no snap and no rush," NFL supervisor Ron Baynes said. "You line up in a kickoff position, but your attempt is an attempt to kick the ball through the goal posts, and you have a chance to make three points.

"This is very rare. I'm not sure when the last time this has happened. I've been in the league 20 years and never seen it."


Young Payton scores
Titans rookie running back Jarrett Payton, the son of the late Hall of Famer Walter Payton, scored the first NFL touchdown in the third quarter.

Payton's five-yard touchdown run gave the Titans a 17-9 lead.


Zero for third down
The Texans' offense continued to struggle in key situations. They only reached the red zone three times and scored a touchdown on only one of those occasions.

The Texans' biggest roadblock was their 13 third-down situations. For the first time in franchise history, the Texans failed to convert a third-down attempt.

"It was an uphill battle," quarterback David Carr said. "You pick up a couple of first downs on first and second downs, but that was really the only way we were moving the ball."

The Texans have converted only 30.6 percent of their third-down attempts this season. A major reason is because of the poor pass protection. Five of Carr's seven sacks against Tennessee came in third-down situations and led to punts.


Field position battle lost
The Titans showed how critical turnovers and kick returns are for good field position. Six times, the Titans started at their 30-yard line or better. Four of those times, the drive ended with a touchdown or field goal.

In the fourth quarter, three of Tennessee's four drives started in Houston territory. They came after an intercep-tion, a 71-yard kickoff return by Adam Jones and an onside kick recovery.

Meanwhile, the Texans had only five of 12 possessions begin beyond their 30. Three of those drives came in the fourth quarter when the Titans were playing some of their reserves.

Rookies Jerome Mathis and Vernand Morency combined to average 24.4 yards per kickoff return, and the Texans forced no turnovers on defense.

MEGAN MANFULL and JOHN McCLAIN

JOHN McCLAIN

[Blatz]

I thought it was cool of the Texas to open up the bubble so the fans could watch the end of the Astros game.

[pgabriel]

they should close Reliant instead of Astroworld. They are shockingly bad. I at least thought they would be better than the Titans this year.

[Rocket River]

McNair kind of intimated that no changes were coming
and them BOOM Palmer was Axed

so I would not take what he says too without a grain of Salt

Rocket River

[droxford]

McNair kind of intimated that no changes were coming
and them BOOM Palmer was Axed

so I would not take what he says too without a grain of Salt

Rocket River

He's clever. He's careful to say the right things in front of media cameras. But you you're right - it's just camera talk and you must know that he's got coaching changes rolling around in his mind.

[swilkins]

I got so pissed I blasted an F bomb and there was a kid 3 seats down.

I apologized, but I doubt they accepted it.

At this point I don't give a sh!t if this team wins a game. I just hope Charley and Capers gets axed.

[Groogrux]

This game certainly didn't deserve a sticky.

[pgabriel]

Did anyone see Ch13 Sports last night? I think it was Bob Allen, he caught up with McNair after the game. Bob asked him, "what are you gonna do, you can't change the players". And McNair says "yeah you can't change the players". But he still didn't hint at anything.

RIET has dead on about this since day one. charley cassersly has not done a good job.

[The Real Shady]

This game certainly didn't deserve a sticky.

[lame joke] They could make it a STINKY: [/lame joke]

[solid]

Every team gets a 1st round pick!

You knew what I meant! :p

[SamFisher]

Somehow, some way, despite being in the middle of nowhere I was able to catch the second half of this disaster of a performance last night via satellite.

The reality on the field is even worse than it seemed. I mean I figured that they over achieved the last few years and would slip back down to 5-6 wins this season, but damn they were SOOO bad. 4 wins would be a miracle from this bunch. I can't figure out why carr seems to have regressed so badly either.

Capers especially looks like he's just kind of given up, and so have the players. When he punted on 4th and 1 on the 40 yard line, his team down 18, with 6 minutes left - wow, what a total bitch move.

They need to clean house.

[TheFreak]

Astros and Oilers both win, good day.

[leroy420]

It's the dreaded vote of confidence from the owner.